I concur on all points. I opened a 2009 Clos Fantine Cuvee Courtiol last night that was so reductive on opening I almost dumped it. There was considerable sediment to the point where a glass poured from the half filled bottle looked like the dregs from the bottom. It took about two hours for the wine to shine and shine it did though still a beast.
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A somewhat embarrassing admission, still, thought I'd share...a new Rule.
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I concur on all points. I opened a 2009 Clos Fantine Cuvee Courtiol last night that was so reductive on opening I almost dumped it. There was considerable sediment to the point where a glass poured from the half filled bottle looked like the dregs from the bottom. It took about two hours for the wine to shine and shine it did though still a beast.
Keith Levenberg
Keith Levenberg
Same hereoriginally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Always surprised when couplehood does not generate increasing interest in each other's hobbies (barring physiological impediments). Yet examples here are legion (well, at least two, as Jay and Rahsaan come immediately to mind).
Indeed. In my case, my wife has gotten less interested in alcohol of any kind over time. She claims that it is partially due to decreased tolerance and physiological changes in how alcohol tastes after her pregnancy. But she also just progressively got out of the habit of even drinking a small glass, so it seems less and less interesting to her.
Hard to argue that she needs to drink alcohol. So somehow I survive!
originally posted by Ignacio Villalgordo:
I also find the old wines suffer when mixed with sediment. They become muddy and blurry if mixed together
In my case, I usually let them stand for a few days. For serving, a wine cradle is a good tool for serving
Yeah, I find though that even several pours are enough to stir the lees as it were.
As far as standup time, I find that I often need weeks - esp. with fine sediment wines, such as Burgundy - which may take months to fully fall clear.
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by BJ:
Oh now I get it. The two of you still drink the whole bottle. Whew!
Not a bad idea...the Mme is always complaining she gets the short end of the stick.
Be prepared for the argument that you represent more than 50% of the couple's joint bodyweight (assuming that is so) to fall on deaf ears. Too many years of getting the short end of the stick does that to our partners.
Yeah, I've tried that argument for years - no go - including food volume, the whole works. But then, the Mme stays in great shape, me, less so...
Jim Hanlon
Jim Hanlon
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Same hereoriginally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Always surprised when couplehood does not generate increasing interest in each other's hobbies (barring physiological impediments). Yet examples here are legion (well, at least two, as Jay and Rahsaan come immediately to mind).
Indeed. In my case, my wife has gotten less interested in alcohol of any kind over time. She claims that it is partially due to decreased tolerance and physiological changes in how alcohol tastes after her pregnancy. But she also just progressively got out of the habit of even drinking a small glass, so it seems less and less interesting to her.
Hard to argue that she needs to drink alcohol. So somehow I survive!
And here.
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Same hereoriginally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Always surprised when couplehood does not generate increasing interest in each other's hobbies (barring physiological impediments). Yet examples here are legion (well, at least two, as Jay and Rahsaan come immediately to mind).
Indeed. In my case, my wife has gotten less interested in alcohol of any kind over time. She claims that it is partially due to decreased tolerance and physiological changes in how alcohol tastes after her pregnancy. But she also just progressively got out of the habit of even drinking a small glass, so it seems less and less interesting to her.
Hard to argue that she needs to drink alcohol. So somehow I survive!
And here.
Yes, but while I enjoy getting pretty much the full 750, I find it a bit sad not to share in the experience. Especially the exceptional ones.
originally posted by Brian C:
Yes, but while I enjoy getting pretty much the full 750, I find it a bit sad not to share in the experience. Especially the exceptional ones.
Agreed. But life is not perfect. At this point I'm just happy when she lets me blather on about why a certain wine is special or interesting!
And, I'm slowly cultivating the next partner. My 7 year old son took his first 'sip' (dipping his finger) the other day, offered his own descriptors, and with any luck will eventually become a wine lover.
My partner in crime is certainly not as wine-obsessed as I (few are), but still shares bottles with me 3-4 times a week. Lately, she's been trying to cut back to lose weight, but I'm a very bad influence that way. I'm lucky that, despite her own instincts to drink nothing but NZ SB and Gamay, she loves many of the geekier wines I open for her such as Poulsard, Frappato and Spätburgunder.
Mark Lipton
Mark Lipton
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Well, when you buy it 10 liters at a time....originally posted by BJ:
I'm lucky with the Mme. She's shockingly good with the blind tasting guessing game. Although our range of wines is pretty limited...
Keith Levenberg
Keith Levenberg
You're never drinking alone as long as there's InstagramYes, but while I enjoy getting pretty much the full 750, I find it a bit sad not to share in the experience. Especially the exceptional ones.
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Well, when you buy it 10 liters at a time....originally posted by BJ:
I'm lucky with the Mme. She's shockingly good with the blind tasting guessing game. Although our range of wines is pretty limited...
That's a good memory!
Larry Stein
Larry Stein
My wife likes wine (but prefers brown liquor and beer). Typically, Sandi drinks 1/4-1/3 of a bottle. If she really likes a wine, we'll split it 50/50. She doesn't know shit about wine, but has a very good palate. Fortunately, her tastes in wine pretty much align with mine.
About 6 months ago, my daughter (then 20, turning 21 in 11 days) told me that she has developed a taste for bourbon. I asked her what she was drinking and was told Four Roses. That was encouraging. One thing I taught her was to not drink crap. Her wine tastes gravitate towards German Riesling (off dry) and cru Beaujolais. I weaned her on those and some in those regions are within her budget.
About 6 months ago, my daughter (then 20, turning 21 in 11 days) told me that she has developed a taste for bourbon. I asked her what she was drinking and was told Four Roses. That was encouraging. One thing I taught her was to not drink crap. Her wine tastes gravitate towards German Riesling (off dry) and cru Beaujolais. I weaned her on those and some in those regions are within her budget.