thoughts on aging a cheap, but good, well made, well balanced wine

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We have been working our way through nearly a case of 2008 Kermit Lynch VdPdV. It is a wine made by Leydier (Durban), best known for their Beaumes de Venise rouge and sweet wine.

Apparently it's half Chardonnay, half Viognier. Until I wrote this post, I was fairly convinced it was a typical Marsanne/Rousanne blend.

It's excellent. It has nice gusto, a bit of toothpasty mint, good texture. I opened a bottle yesterday cleaning some wood for our new deck...a couple glasses there, a glass for the Mme as a kir, and the rest into the sausage and lentil stew.

I do like older wines, and generally I find satisfying results with honestly made country wines.

I'd like to emphasize this had a nice, basic, natural cork.
 
originally posted by BJ:
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I'd like to emphasize this had a nice, basic, natural cork.
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The fallacy in this sentence as a comment on aging with a non-natural cork needs no remark. And since I'm guessing you know that, I won't.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by BJ:
...country wines...
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Since we're hacking the notes to death with nitpicking, I figure why not note that (almost) all wines come from the countryside.
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There is a vineyard in Montmartre in Paris. They tell me the wine is lousy and it still sells out as soon as it is released.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by BJ:
...country wines...
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Since we're hacking the notes to death with nitpicking, I figure why not note that (almost) all wines come from the countryside.
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Rhys source some grapes from Palo Alto, don't they?

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by BJ:
...country wines...
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Since we're hacking the notes to death with nitpicking, I figure why not note that (almost) all wines come from the countryside.
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Well, there is honey from bees on rooftops in NYC, so perhaps the writer is trying to clarify?
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by BJ:
...country wines...
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Since we're hacking the notes to death with nitpicking, I figure why not note that (almost) all wines come from the countryside.
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Rhys source some grapes from Palo Alto, don't they?

Mark Lipton
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Not really. Their Family Farm and Home wines are from Woodside, in a relatively rural location. No more urban than Varner or many other California wineries. There is a Cabernet made in Bel Air, though. Owned by Rupert Murdoch.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Doesn't cost you much to find out, right?
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Well, I spend about $1.60/bottle/year to store my wine, exclusive of insurance. So, aging a wine for a decade adds $16 to the purchase price. Not nothing, with a larger cellar. If BJ's costs are about the same, he spent about as much to age the wine as to buy it.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Doesn't cost you much to find out, right?
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Well, I spend about $1.60/bottle/year to store my wine, exclusive of insurance. So, aging a wine for a decade adds $16 to the purchase price. Not nothing, with a larger cellar. If BJ's costs are about the same, he spent about as much to age the wine as to buy it.
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Apt analysis if he pays per bottle or per liter. If he buys by cu. ft. then it's not important until he is close to filling up the space.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Doesn't cost you much to find out, right?
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Well, I spend about $1.60/bottle/year to store my wine, exclusive of insurance. So, aging a wine for a decade adds $16 to the purchase price. Not nothing, with a larger cellar. If BJ's costs are about the same, he spent about as much to age the wine as to buy it.
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Apt analysis if he pays per bottle or per liter. If he buys by cu. ft. then it's not important until he is close to filling up the space.
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You're right. Having extra storage space is pretty far off my radar.
 
I mostly buy old stuff now and use other people's cellars. I bought this on close out for a ridiculously low price.

I realize as I write this it isn't internally consistent with the above, but hey, that never stopped me.

I do miss my old basement/passive cellar which was great for just having random old cheap stuff lying about.
 
Cheap, good, well-made, balanced; that’s about all I buy, let alone age.
Some older more expensive stuff remains from the glory days and it continues to age - but there’s not much of it anymore.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim: Cheap, good, well-made, balanced; that’s about all I buy, let alone age.
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Jim, admirable guideline! It doesn't make sense to buy wines that only heir(s) might get to enjoy.

. . . . . Pete
 
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