"Natural" Wine

[Yixin]

Redox potential.

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by Yixin:
Redox potential.

Could you elaborate, Yi Xin? There are lots of redox-active components of wine (phenolics, principally, but also thiols and aldehydes) as well as sulfites.

Mark Lipton

 

[mark e]

originally posted by VLM:
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I don't know why I find myself being the naysayer whenever biodynamics are mentioned, but as a practitioner and student of BD farming and grape growing since the early 90s, I always cringe whenever I read stuff like:

"A group based in the Loire valley pushed mysticism to the forefront through an interest in biodynamic agriculture, invented almost a century earlier by the Austrian occult philosopher Rudolf Steiner (he of the controversial schools). This involved promoting biodiversity in the vineyard, but also burying cow horns and entrails to form cosmic antennas in the soil “raying back whatever is life-giving and astral”, according to Steiner."

The Steiner quote is really taken out of all context so that it sounds purposely woo-woo and weird. Plus I don't really think anyone believes that Waldorf schools are particularly controversial. Anyway, I am not going to argue the merits of biodynamics except to say that the farming is far more ecologically sound than most organic farming and the results are there for all to taste . . .

 

[Jeff Grossman]

I just know that we are all aching, yearning for more knowledge about essotu and what it means for wine. So here are some resources:
friendly, winey, math-y (with a regular wine slant), chemist-y (with a natural wine slant), and Lipton and Yi Xin only.

 

[Florida Jim]

Thanks, Jeff

 

[Brian C]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by VLM:
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I don't know why I find myself being the naysayer whenever biodynamics are mentioned, but as a practitioner and student of BD farming and grape growing since the early 90s, I always cringe whenever I read stuff like:

"A group based in the Loire valley pushed mysticism to the forefront through an interest in biodynamic agriculture, invented almost a century earlier by the Austrian occult philosopher Rudolf Steiner (he of the controversial schools). This involved promoting biodiversity in the vineyard, but also burying cow horns and entrails to form cosmic antennas in the soil “raying back whatever is life-giving and astral”, according to Steiner."

The Steiner quote is really taken out of all context so that it sounds purposely woo-woo and weird. Plus I don't really think anyone believes that Waldorf schools are particularly controversial. Anyway, I am not going to argue the merits of biodynamics except to say that the farming is far more ecologically sound than most organic farming and the results are there for all to taste . . .

Thanks Mark, you're not alone in this thinking. As a farmer and parent of a couple of Waldorf schooled kids I so much agree with this.