Oliver Zeter?

[Rahsaan]

Anyone tried his wines? Caught my eye because a nearby shop has a chenin blanc of his from the Pfalz. I couldn't buy it at the time, but curiosity will win out soon (probably tomorrow).

His website portrays him as a somewhat irreverent guy, which can go all kinds of ways stylistically (not all of them good). And he works with quite a few grapes (my instincts would say that some of these 'foreign' grapes are not necessary) But I love chenin and he seems to talk a good game methods-wise, spontaneous fermentation, drinkable wines (not chasing points), etc.

 

[Rahsaan]

For all those anxiously awaiting the update.... you snooze you lose!

It turns out the chenin bottles were no longer in stock and were only a stock of conversation at this point. Curiosity remains...

 

[John Jansma]

Damn! I don't even see it listed in the USA on searcher...

 

[mark e]

originally posted by Rahsaan:
Oliver Zeter?Anyone tried his wines? Caught my eye because a nearby shop has a chenin blanc of his from the Pfalz. I couldn't buy it at the time, but curiosity will win out soon (probably tomorrow).

His website portrays him as a somewhat irreverent guy, which can go all kinds of ways stylistically (not all of them good). And he works with quite a few grapes (my instincts would say that some of these 'foreign' grapes are not necessary) But I love chenin and he seems to talk a good game methods-wise, spontaneous fermentation, drinkable wines (not chasing points), etc.

Tried his SB a couple of weeks ago and found it completely soulless. Does this picture he posted of himself on his website look irreverent to you? (to me more of a wanker):

 

[Rahsaan]

Irreverent in the sense that he wasn't afraid to try new things: e.g. the Pfalz chenin that piqued my interest.

But I wasn't sure what to make of it just from the website, and was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. (Also because the wines were stocked in a shop that has pretty good taste).

However I could easily see soulless and wanker also applying. And the fact that he makes so many wines from so many (foreign) grapes was a clue that it wasn't just about the ideal match between cepage and terroir which nobody had previously discovered.

Anyway, thanks for the report.

 

[MarkS]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Rahsaan:
Oliver Zeter?Anyone tried his wines? Caught my eye because a nearby shop has a chenin blanc of his from the Pfalz. I couldn't buy it at the time, but curiosity will win out soon (probably tomorrow).

His website portrays him as a somewhat irreverent guy, which can go all kinds of ways stylistically (not all of them good). And he works with quite a few grapes (my instincts would say that some of these 'foreign' grapes are not necessary) But I love chenin and he seems to talk a good game methods-wise, spontaneous fermentation, drinkable wines (not chasing points), etc.

Tried his SB a couple of weeks ago and found it completely soulless. Does this picture he posted of himself on his website look irreverent to you? (to me more of a wanker):

He looks like a standard businessman. Wasn't Charles Smith once thought to be "irreverent" once, and now he's a millionaire winemaker.

 

[mark e]

originally posted by MarkS:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by Rahsaan:
Oliver Zeter?Anyone tried his wines? Caught my eye because a nearby shop has a chenin blanc of his from the Pfalz. I couldn't buy it at the time, but curiosity will win out soon (probably tomorrow).

His website portrays him as a somewhat irreverent guy, which can go all kinds of ways stylistically (not all of them good). And he works with quite a few grapes (my instincts would say that some of these 'foreign' grapes are not necessary) But I love chenin and he seems to talk a good game methods-wise, spontaneous fermentation, drinkable wines (not chasing points), etc.

Tried his SB a couple of weeks ago and found it completely soulless. Does this picture he posted of himself on his website look irreverent to you? (to me more of a wanker):

He looks like a standard businessman.

Well, exactly. A farmer he is not. Look, chenin or not (and I am curious what it tastes like from Germany, just as a novelty), this is not an artisan operation.

 

[georg lauer]

After all the photo interpretation wankery I finally want to try the wines.

 

[mark e]

originally posted by georg lauer:
After all the photo interpretation wankery I finally want to try the wines.

Why? Look, I can't stop anyone from pissing their money down the drain (aka teh fatsink) if they are deadset on doing it.

 

[georg lauer]

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by georg lauer:
After all the photo interpretation wankery I finally want to try the wines.

Why? Look, I can't stop anyone from pissing their money down the drain (aka teh fatsink) if they are deadset on doing it.

Why not? There are more than just a few guys in Germany whose taste usually overlaps quite a bit with mine and who really like the wines. Have you had more than the SB to be so sure about the wines?

 

[mark e]

originally posted by georg lauer:

originally posted by mark e:

originally posted by georg lauer:
After all the photo interpretation wankery I finally want to try the wines.

Why? Look, I can't stop anyone from pissing their money down the drain (aka teh fatsink) if they are deadset on doing it.

Why not? There are more than just a few guys in Germany whose taste usually overlaps quite a bit with mine and who really like the wines. Have you had more than the SB to be so sure about the wines?

I know enough not to really care. There are dozens of German estates I spend my not unlimited resources on - and continue to try plenty of others, but when it comes to buying it's "one strike and you are out." I'm sure I'm missing plenty of good wines and tons of industrial swill, as well.