Anyone have some trebbiano recommendations?

originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Anyone have some trebbiano recommendations?I find myself in the mood for trebbiano
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How did this come to be?
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Another classic Levenberg diss of Italian wine.
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WTF?
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Are you denying that you do similar when it comes to the topic of Italian wine? You discredited everything from the Piemonte that wasn't Nebbiolo not that long ago. Read what you write if you don't believe me.
 
originally posted by VLM:
Had the 2015 Tiberio Montepulciano d'Abruzzo Sunday evening. It was a strapping beast of a wine. Very dark and deep with lots of earthy, gamey notes and a core of fruit. Somewhat four-square but still lively, if that makes any sense. Rustic in a very nice way. Would work great with some sort of stew, I think. Anyway, worth checking out. Not sure I'll have a regular need for this wine, but will keep a couple of bottles around.
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2015 was an early harvest for Cristiana. The 2014 was a bit more elegant and refined. She claims 2016 will be more like 2014.

She released her single parcel Montepulciano, Colle Vota, for the first time in 2014. I recommend checking it out if you can possibly find a bottle. It's a massive leap from her regular bottling.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Yeah. Denying all that and standing by my prior "WTF?"
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"De gustibus. My wine tastes are mostly francophilic, so Piedmont and Tuscany are not going to scratch the Bordeaux/Burgundy itch. Tuscany I have largely lost interest in. Piedmont I enjoy greatly but it's simply not as functional as Bordeaux or Burgundy (or Rhone or Loire), all of which are fun to drink young, which nebbiolo so seldom is...

But de gustibus, again. Obviously there are people out there who can enjoy young nebbiolo. I'm not one of them. There are exceptions to the rule. But it's a *very* reliable rule. Just as obviously, Piedmont makes lots of good wine from other grapes, but I wouldn't include any of them in a conversation about wine we buy for a shot at profundity. I know it's wine-board PC to shun trophy-hunting and praise the humble little gems, but one of my realizations as my cellar ages is that you don't want to hold *too* many science experiments relative to the tried-and-true classics."

Keith, you wrote the above not long ago.
 
So what? Neither that post nor the one you quote above is a "diss of Italian wine."

I have like 500 bottles of Italian wine. I'm obviously dissing it wrong.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
I have like 500 bottles of Italian wine. I'm obviously dissing it wrong.
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So out of a 5000-bottle cellar, this is 10% of your collection. I think anyone can have 10-percent strays from around the world.
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by VLM:
Had the 2015 Tiberio Montepulciano d'Abruzzo Sunday evening. It was a strapping beast of a wine. Very dark and deep with lots of earthy, gamey notes and a core of fruit. Somewhat four-square but still lively, if that makes any sense. Rustic in a very nice way. Would work great with some sort of stew, I think. Anyway, worth checking out. Not sure I'll have a regular need for this wine, but will keep a couple of bottles around.
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2015 was an early harvest for Cristiana. The 2014 was a bit more elegant and refined. She claims 2016 will be more like 2014.

She released her single parcel Montepulciano, Colle Vota, for the first time in 2014. I recommend checking it out if you can possibly find a bottle. It's a massive leap from her regular bottling.
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Thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye out.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
I have like 500 bottles of Italian wine. I'm obviously dissing it wrong.
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So out of a 5000-bottle cellar, this is 10% of your collection. I think anyone can have 10-percent strays from around the world.
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You should see all the bins I have for dissing German and Austrian wine
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
I have like 500 bottles of Italian wine. I'm obviously dissing it wrong.
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So out of a 5000-bottle cellar, this is 10% of your collection. I think anyone can have 10-percent strays from around the world.
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You should see all the bins I have for dissing German and Austrian wine
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Hey, it adds up.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:

I have like 500 bottles of Italian wine. I'm obviously dissing it wrong.
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I taste on average about 200 wines a week. That you assume one could have real expertise on Italy based on 500 bottles may be part of the problem. Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.

I have travelled to Italy 14 times in 14 years, including many trips to the Piemonte. I have interviewed hundreds of people, including many, many Italian vigneron. And I have tasted professionally for over 20 years. That has been enough experience to recognize that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Italian wine.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:

I taste on average about 200 wines a week. That you assume one could have real expertise on Italy based on 500 bottles may be part of the problem. Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.
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That alone could start Falkenstein Thread, The Sequel.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I taste on average about 200 wines a week....Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.

...I have tasted professionally for over 20 years.
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Friends with any Supreme Court justices?
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I taste on average about 200 wines a week....Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.

...I have tasted professionally for over 20 years.
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Friends with any Supreme Court justices?
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Sixth Circuit is the closest I come. She may get to the Show, but let’s hope not. Incredibly lovely person for a member of the Federalist Society. Which brings us back to Keith. Which is where I duck back out of this thread and slink back to the safety of my amateurish Falkenstein worship and professional understanding of why philosophy has little to say about what has a verifiable probability of occurring in the observable world.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:

I have like 500 bottles of Italian wine. I'm obviously dissing it wrong.
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I taste on average about 200 wines a week. That you assume one could have real expertise on Italy based on 500 bottles may be part of the problem. Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.

I have travelled to Italy 14 times in 14 years, including many trips to the Piemonte. I have interviewed hundreds of people, including many, many Italian vigneron. And I have tasted professionally for over 20 years. That has been enough experience to recognize that you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to Italian wine.
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What, pray tell, brought on this bout of rudeness (and illiteracy)?
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:

I taste on average about 200 wines a week. That you assume one could have real expertise on Italy based on 500 bottles may be part of the problem. Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.
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That alone could start Falkenstein Thread, The Sequel.
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Hey, you watcha yo' mouth!
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:

I taste on average about 200 wines a week. That you assume one could have real expertise on Italy based on 500 bottles may be part of the problem. Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.
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That alone could start Falkenstein Thread, The Sequel.
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Hey, you watcha yo' mouth!
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It will be wonderful! Monkey the PhD Statistician will be on hand to derive points based on cluster analysis of preferences among hundreds of wines tasted in the same week by the same person. No prongs will be required.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:

I taste on average about 200 wines a week. That you assume one could have real expertise on Italy based on 500 bottles may be part of the problem. Five hundred bottles is about what I used to buy every week as a sommelier.
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That alone could start Falkenstein Thread, The Sequel.
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Hey, you watcha yo' mouth!
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It will be wonderful! Monkey the PhD Statistician will be on hand to derive points based on cluster analysis of preferences among hundreds of wines tasted in the same week by the same person. No prongs will be required.
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No prongs?.....
 
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