TN: Racines (Oct 9, 2018)

originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Dom. Belliviere 2015 Jasnieres "Calligramme" - so much matchstick!, the wine underneath is crisp and pure (but wait 10 years to try again)
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I was too impatient/thirsty to wait 10 years, so I happily opened a bottle of this on Friday night. It was quite delicious and (perhaps because of decanter splash) it did not overwhelm me with sulfur. That said, finishing the bottle 24 hours later was the most delicious part. So while I will not wait 10 years to open the next bottle, I will be giving it even more air.

And speaking of Jasnières, the good old friend Belliviere was much more convincing than recent bottles of Janvier (17 regular Jasnières and 16 Cuvée du Silex). I read good things about Janvier, but somehow over the years the wines never seem to speak to me.
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I agree.

Not the expert here, but until someone shows me otherwise, Eric Nicolas is the clear King of the Loir IME.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
I was a fan of Eric Nicolas until I overbought the v.a.-riddled 2014 Rouge Gorge.
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I am still a fan, but when he was here in Oslo last summer at the Biodyvin tasting I found all the whites he brought had way too much oak.
 
originally posted by mark e:
I am still a fan, but when he was here in Oslo last summer at the Biodyvin tasting I found all the whites he brought had way too much oak.
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I was going to mention the oak in the initial post. Especially in comparison to the Janvier wines, the glistening jellied oak notes were very apparent in the Calligramme. And while I haven't tracked the Belliviere wines systematically over the years, from memory those notes have been consistent. Yet, I have always liked that about the wines and it doesn't offend me the way creamier oak presentations might do.

Maybe it's ok to admit that one can appreciate oak-derived flavors!
 
Hm, I think I may not have ever had the 2014 Rouge Gorge. Sounds like no reason to hurry and backfill.

Yes, his whites require a lot of time to get friendly.
 
Running counter, two bottles of 2010 Belliviere Prémices opened last night and a few nights ago were flawlessly ab fab. Since this is the entry level young vines bottling, it must see no new oak, and is therefore recommended for those wishing to avoid the "goût du véhicule de transport."
 
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