What, no thread on Thanksgiving bottles?

originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
2017 Baudry Chinon Blanc... 2015 Jean-Marc Pillot Chassagne-Montrachet Les Chaumes...

Nice choices! Did you get those from RC? I've really glommed to the current iteration of Pillot. Glad you liked it.

Yes, I have you to thank. I was happy with the Pillot and it almost inspired me to do a mixed-case of his wines, or other white Burgundy. Except then the value slapped me in the face. Because I would have liked that wine a lot better at $40-50 and am not in the mood to go up to $100 for more complexity.

Which then reminded me why I drink so little white Burgundy in the first place. Back to square one!

Still, it was a lovely evening.

Yeah, the prices are tough. I think the Chaumes is around $50 though. He also does a Montagny 1er Cru that I think you'd really like. Very chalky. The 1er Chassagne are excellent, but they're probably in the $70+ range.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

1995 Bel Air Marquis D'Aligre Marguax, i believe a fairly even mix of merlot, cabernet sauvignon and cabernet franc, this was terrific mature Bourdeaux. this still has a long life ahead of it. i don't drink too much bourdeaux these days but i imagine this would qualify as a classic marguax.
i've been dabbling in bordeaux lately because there seems to be good value among the somewhat lesser known or chased after wines.

I've got some of these on the way from Chambers and am really curious.
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
1995 Bel Air Marquis D'Aligre Marguax, i believe a fairly even mix of merlot, cabernet sauvignon and cabernet franc, this was terrific mature Bourdeaux. this still has a long life ahead of it. i don't drink too much bourdeaux these days but i imagine this would qualify as a classic marguax.
Can you confirm or deny the rumors that this needs like an 8 hour decant to get drinkable?

i let it air out for about 3 or so hours. we drank it rather slowly and it kept getting better so an 8 hour decant doesn't seem out of the question.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

1995 Bel Air Marquis D'Aligre Marguax, i believe a fairly even mix of merlot, cabernet sauvignon and cabernet franc, this was terrific mature Bourdeaux. this still has a long life ahead of it. i don't drink too much bourdeaux these days but i imagine this would qualify as a classic marguax.
i've been dabbling in bordeaux lately because there seems to be good value among the somewhat lesser known or chased after wines.

I've got some of these on the way from Chambers and am really curious.

that's where mine came from. i really like the producer.
 
ours:

Tarlant La Vigne d'Antan (1998/99 blend, 2006 disgorgement) -
Bottle variation on this constantly frustrates me. They go back and forth between glorious and generic young champagne that shows zero payoff for the decade-plus I've been holding them. This one was somewhere in the middle, better than generic, but no cellar payoff. Bracing fruit with chalk and gravel.

Foillard 2009 Cuvee 3.14
This has gotten streamlined considerably with age, no longer the tannic beast it used to be. Very sleek now with zingy raspberry and cranberry fruit laced with crushed rock. Oddly leaner and silkier than the regular Cote de Py right now, also showing a bit younger/fresher and not quite as interestingly developed as the regular, but more interesting than...

Marcel Lapierre MMIX
On release this was blatantly jammy and over-the-top, could have been labeled I Can't Believe It's Not California. Still showing plenty of that with dark fruit and a raisined sur-maturite that fortunately mellows out with a few hours' decanting. Much better than it used to be, but still far off the point where you could say, "see, just needed some time!"

Kracher 1999 Welschriesling TBA #8
Color browning, flavors still as luscious as Kracher always is with tropical apricot flavors turning almost caramel with age.

Roulot l'Abricot
You like apricots? Here is essence of apricot. Specifically tastes like essence of those perfect juicy French dried apricots they (used to?) sell at Fairway.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Rahsaan:
I did use a graham cracker crust, which is the only way I have considered making it. But now you have me inspired to go a different direction next time! Because I can see your point, although I wouldn't go quite as far as bourbon barrels on Mosel riesling, because we still got plenty of lime flavor (at least until the tongue hit the crust).
I have one word for you: parfait.

That's a good idea. I made key lime popsicles this summer but they were not a popsicly hit. I suppose I could work on the recipe but then the season changed anyway...
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
I opened a horribly overoaked 2013 Ridge Geyserville.

I mean we all joke about Draper perfume but this was much worse than I remember any previous Geyservilles (though the last I had was a 1999).

I haven’t liked Geyserville lately either. Thick jam-slathered oak and high-ish alcohol.
 
2014 Patrick Javillier Savigny les Beaune Les Montchevenoy. A good buy around $23; not so keen at 50%+ more that I’m seeing now. Serviceable mineral tangeriney-citrus but a bit thick and possibly even a hint of RS. Not as popular among non-geeks at a traditional Thanksgiving meal as.....

2010 Alain Michelot Bourgogne Rouge. Old vines sap here. Rustic dark fruit but with some tension. I’d guess it could use 3-5 years more in the cellar but this is surprisingly open now. Won the Thunderbird prize.
 
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Bill Lundstrom:

1995 Bel Air Marquis D'Aligre Marguax, i believe a fairly even mix of merlot, cabernet sauvignon and cabernet franc, this was terrific mature Bourdeaux. this still has a long life ahead of it. i don't drink too much bourdeaux these days but i imagine this would qualify as a classic marguax.
i've been dabbling in bordeaux lately because there seems to be good value among the somewhat lesser known or chased after wines.

I've got some of these on the way from Chambers and am really curious.

that's where mine came from. i really like the producer.

Had to miss a vertical they did last Monday at Racines. I was bummed about that. I don’t know this wine.
 
At the cousins, American wines for an American holiday, accompanying roast turkey, mashed potatoes, brazil nut-based stuffing, creamed onions, a salad of spinach, tangerines and cubes of roast butternut squash, hazelnut and apple pies.

A slightly over the hill Walla Walla Chardonnay completely lacquered with French Oak, didn't bother to remember the name.

Lenné 2011 "Jill's 115" Willamette Valley Pinot Noir - pleasant yet unexpected aroma with tobacco-woody tones and mellow cherry fruit. More akin to old school Rioja than PN, it is completely missing PN's signature clovey spice note; medium body, mellow velvety tannins, decent acid. A puzzling winery: the 2009 Kill Hill Vineyard was phenomenal a couple of years ago, extremely aromatic and complex; while last year a 2010 Willamette bottling was subdued and quite unevolved.

Rafanelli 2009 Dry Creek Estate Merlot - aromatic cherry-berry fruit with background oak, medium body with plump middle, still lively and well-balanced with good acid. Not complex, but this wine channels the same jolly, zesty Dry Creek character that you find in the better Zins from the appellation. Good T-day wine.

Arrowood 2009 Russian River Saralee vineyard Late Harvest Riesling- pure apricot lusciousnouss with honeyed botrytis, tinged floral. Could ding it for low acid, but that might just be the high sugar overwhelming it. Again, not complex but tasty.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by VLM:
Yeah, the prices are tough. I think the Chaumes is around $50 though.

Not for us retail mortals!

You offered it at $63, supposedly marked down from $73.

Oh shit, you're right. Ooops. The Montagny should be under $50. Hopefully under $40, let me check.
 
We didn't celebrate, but opened a 2013 Antoine Sanzay Saumur-Champigny Les Poyeux 12.0% to see what Poyeux tastes like without flavorings and emollients. Lots of leather and barnyard with hints of tar and licorice. Pleasing body and weight, balanced, with a vibrant acidity of which a small fraction was volatile. Gained gravitas with food, but never flirted with the luxurious sumptuousness that only the cedar/sandalwood side of the NFO spectrum can provide in the Rougeard version. Much kinder on the wallet, of course.
 
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
2010 Alain Michelot Bourgogne Rouge. Old vines sap here. Rustic dark fruit but with some tension. I’d guess it could use 3-5 years more in the cellar but this is surprisingly open now. Won the Thunderbird prize.

love these wines

didn't get to visit this year, but always keeping a close eye
 
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:

Foillard 2009 Cuvee 3.14
This has gotten streamlined considerably with age, no longer the tannic beast it used to be. Very sleek now with zingy raspberry and cranberry fruit laced with crushed rock. Oddly leaner and silkier than the regular Cote de Py right now, also showing a bit younger/fresher and not quite as interestingly developed as the regular, but more interesting than...

this is interesting; i may need to re-engage

when this and MMIX were released, I plugged myself into an iCarsoft BMW scanner and got a dual "alcohol out of permissible range" fault code. Actually, your note does not necessarily preclude such condition as there is "lean" and then there is lean, but sounds like a 10-year reunion may be warranted.
 
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
2010 Alain Michelot Bourgogne Rouge. Old vines sap here. Rustic dark fruit but with some tension. I’d guess it could use 3-5 years more in the cellar but this is surprisingly open now. Won the Thunderbird prize.

love these wines

didn't get to visit this year, but always keeping a close eye

Michelot, or bourgogne rouge? Michelot seems to be generally in stealth mode in the U.S., considering his vineyard holdings and the decent press Kermit gave him in his book. I have dabbled, purchase-wise, but not yet sampled.
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Michelot, or bourgogne rouge? Michelot seems to be generally in stealth mode in the U.S., considering his vineyard holdings and the decent press Kermit gave him in his book. I have dabbled, purchase-wise, but not yet sampled.

Michelot.

Kermit?

The vineyards are great. The wines are nicely represented and distributed in MA. It is important to keep in mind though that Cailles is from relatively young vines, and while usually delicious it should be evaluated in context.
 
Yesterday was the day I cooked a turkey with friends. Since we aren't cranberry fans, there was none of that to mess with wine. The turkey was done on the weber rotisserie with a single small hardwood chunk to give a hint of smokiness. I served a mag of 95 Druet Vaumoreau with it, sourced from K&L for a collection of change lost between my sofa cushions. The wine was fantastic, drinking well but still with a bit of room for improvement. Definitely had a green note, but not a very assertive one, and was a hit with the guests -- non geeks, but folks who appreciate various beverages.
 
2012 Cowan Cellars Pinot Noir, Anderson Valley and 2006 August West Syrah, Rosella's Vnyd (Santa Lucia Highlands)

There were just 4 adults. Cowan was a big hit with all of us (Thanks, Jim!). August West was a real surprise. Silky, a touch of smoke (which matched well with the smoked turkey), and well balanced. Not your typical CA Syrah. This was given to me by Ed Kurtzman after a day of bottling.
 
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