TN: La Persistence des Vins (Dec 2, 2018)

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
attendees: Jeff+Erica, Jay, Jeff, Tse Wei+Diana

The theme is wines you used to have often but don't anymore.

Very creative and, in the end, worked nicely.

But first: We are at Tse Wei and Diana's house and that means the food will definitely outnumber and quite likely surpass the wines. Here's what I was able to capture:
- home-baked bread... crust crisp but still a bit of give, inside delicate and steamy
- "Herring in a Fur Coat"... a Russian salad, layered into an enormous glass bowl then inverted onto a plate (I'll note that the Russians use the word "salad" for almost any cold dish that has more than two ingredients)
- duck liver mousse... finely whipped and earthy, love it
- fennel and apple salad... with extra zing from two kinds of Asian pickles
- tiny baby radishes, greens on, with anchovy butter
- butternut squash... cold cooked chunks
- endive salad with orange, almonds, and three more ingredients I can no longer read
- Clams Casino... hot out of the oven
- Swedish Meat Loaf... bork! bork! bork! (you had to be there)
- Red-Cooked Pork... Diana says every district in China has a version of this recipe
- cranberry pie... not just cranberry sauce in a shell, in a creamier and milder style
- pecan-caramel crisp... they sent me home with this and my partner, who hates caramel, loved it

The whole style of the meal encourages taking a bit of this onto your plate, then a spoonful of that, and two pieces of that other, which is a good style for playing mix 'n' match with the wines:

Cedric Bouchard NV Champagne Brut "Rose de Jeanne", Blanc de Noir "Cote de Val Vilaine" - disg. 4/17, young and fresh, good middle-of-the-road champangne

Jo Landron NV "Atmospheres" - folle blanche and pinot noir; I like the pinot noir smellies, alas that they are in the minority here; not strongly tasty or fizzy or earthy or anything, really

Clos Rougeard 2004 Saumur-Champigny "Les Poyeux" - beautiful red fruit, vigorous but not assertive, maybe some chalk (or something earthy and fine-grained), mid-weight, just lovely

Clos Rougeard 2005 Saumur-Champigny "Les Poyeux" - sterner, leaner, more cab in this cab franc, mid-weight leaning towards heavy, still crisp and pure, drink and hold; Four days later: much the same, though the acidity has drooped just a bit.

Clos Rougeard 2011 Saumur-Champigny "Le Clos" - mildest tannins of all!, a bit more tobacco, a bit less folded-in on itself, nimble, really good tonight

=> Ah, yes, we used to drink Clos Rougeard whenever we felt like it. The 'Clos', anyway. That '05 Poyeux cost me $66 - SFJoe encouraged me to pick some up - so I would set it aside for something a little better than steamed steak (say).

Dom. Belliviere 2010 Coteax du Loir "Le Rouge-Gorge" - OMG bottle, full-on, vibrant pineau d'aunis, like magical spicy cabernet, mid-weight but levitating in the mouth, reminds me of this bottle

Dom. Belliviere 2015 Coteax du Loir "Le Rouge-Gorge" - young, typique, good but give it a few years to settle down

=> Living in Dressner Ground Zero, NYers pretty much always see Dom. Belliviere wines. But Tse Wei and Diana are only recently returned after many years in Boston, and the supply of pineau d'aunis there is a mere trickle.

Torres 2009 Cabernet Sauvignon "Mas La Plana" "Black Label" - reasonably civilized, tobacco and dark plummy fruit, kinda nice still!, the website says the style changed in 2008 towards something more accessible younger, on my way out I saw Tse Wei push a sprig of rosemary and four pieces of orange peel into the neck...

=> We used to have a lot of this at offlines. I have notes on an auction lot I won in April 2000. Here's a representative note from August 2001: 1978 Torres, Gran Coronas Black Label - very pretty, this bottle is more faded than some others I''ve had, old cedar and coffee notes

Smith-Woodhouse 1994 Vintage Port - awfully corked

And then some of us indulged in a pour of Blandy's 1996 Colheita Madeira "Malmsey" and/or a bit of Vergano Chinato (marked L01/102/13).

Thank you to our gracious hosts for a wonderful evening. A tip of the hat to all the charming guests, and to Bacchus for his kindly care of our memories.
 
Great theme, can't say I've heard of it before. Does the Landron fit? Less available? Less interest in drinking?
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
TN: La Persistence des Vins (Dec 2, 2018)attendees: Jeff+Erica, Jay, Jeff, Tse Wei+Diana

The theme is wines you used to have often but don't anymore...

- "Herring in a Fur Coat"...

- duck liver mousse... finely whipped and earthy, love it
- Clams Casino... hot out of the oven
- Swedish Meat Loaf... bork! bork! bork! (you had to be there)...

Some of those dishes fit the theme too. But what other ingredients make the "fur coat" of the herring?

Torres Gran Coronas Black Label - that's a trip down memory lane. The '78 was a famous wine in its day.
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
But what other ingredients make the "fur coat" of the herring?

Grated potato, carrot, and beet, held together with mayonnaise (and hard-boiled eggs, I think).

Torres Gran Coronas Black Label - that's a trip down memory lane. The '78 was a famous wine in its day.

Yes, we drank it often and it was so good with 20 years under its belt. I think Torres may have served a role in Penedes similar to that of Lungarotti in Umbria: showed the Wine World that great wine can be made here. (The Torres blog shows the official scorecard from the 1979 Wine Olympiad in which Mas La Plana bested Latour and La Miss.)
 
The definition of a salad, in Russia is any dish that is:

a. cold
b. has more than two ingredients
c. and has mayonnaise (does not count towards the two ingredient minimum)

Potato mixed up with herring. Onions, preferably pickled, are a must. The herbs are optional but we like them.

The Bouchard, in this vintage, was everything I want in my everyday champagne. Vinous in a light rather than Selosse-ish manner, the fruit primary but balanced by enough chalk and steel, and a general sense of not having a care in the world. Unfortunately I don't think the Val Vilaine hits this in most years, and my other go-to basic champagnes - Bereche and Laherte in particular - tend to feel a little burdened by their own potential.

The Atmospheres was the other Jeff's contribution. Like him, I used to drink much more of this. This was a little more reductive and meaty than I remembered. Clean and energetic enough.

Of the Rougeards, I thought the '11 Clos had the most Franc going, a mountain of ripe green pepper. A week(!) later it was only just starting to hint at what it will become. Honestly it was hard forming a preference between the 04 and the 05. I don't think the 04 has much more to give, but it's not going anywhere in a hurry either. The red cooked pork actually only hit the table because Jay Miller said that that dish was a great foil for Bordeaux... and it was especially good with the 05 Poyeux.

I wish I had more 2010 Rouge Gorge. I think the last time I could get this in Boston it was about $35 retail, so while I wince a little at current pricing, it's not like it's gone crazy. I'm not sure the 15 will ever be quite as balletic - the fruit has a bit more of a brooding quality (relatively).

There was also a bottle of Lopez de Heredia Bosconia 09 - so tight I can't believe they released it. Tasted it every day after for a week, nothing going. The pedigree is clear, but it's not coming out to play right now.

The Torres did not please me on its own, but after having some rosemary and orange peel in it for 20 or so hours, and some mint for maybe 8, it was quite a passable chinato - without the aid of added sugar, even.
 
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