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Cliff Rosenberg
2002 Coudert Fleurie Clos de la Roilette Cuve Tardive - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Fleurie (1/1/2009)
Damnation! I called up a bottle of the regular from Chelsea, and they sent the Tardive; and I didn't catch it until after pulling the cork. D'oh! I had a bottle of this in the realm of recently, and it was completely closed. Mercifully, this has begun to open. The aromatics are beautiful: still primary but opening up to show what it has. The palate on the other hand still has aways to go. Maybe just a touch of brett in this one, but not much. I look forward to this one in three or four years, if I can manage to keep my hands off the few I have left.

2005 Domaine Guion Bourgueil Cuve Prestige - France, Loire Valley, Touraine, Bourgueil (12/30/2008)
Really nice stuff, in a lighter style than the other usual suspects in the same neighborhood. Wish I could have loaded up when they were giving the stuff away.

2001 Sella Lessona - Italy, Piedmont, Northern Piedmont, Lessona (12/28/2008)
Still very, very nice, this doesn't seem to have a whole lot more to give. It's developing really fast. Is it the Croatina in the blend? It seems weird to me for Nebbiolo-based wine to move so quickly. No danger of its falling apart immediately or anything, but I plan to drink up in the next year or three.

2002 Franois Chidaine Vouvray Clos Baudoin - France, Loire Valley, Touraine, Vouvray (12/28/2008)
Arrrghh, here's another 2002 showing oxidized with caramel notes. The Muscadet that came in the same stash from the west coast has been consistently fantastic.

2007 Jean Foillard Morgon Cuve Corcelette - France, Burgundy, Beaujolais, Morgon (12/28/2008)
While this didn't wow me, it was open and expressive, showing a sneaky concentration that kicked in on the finish, black cherries with a touch of olive. This seems broadly similar to last year's Cotes de Py, and, if so, I expect it has gears it isn't showing at this point.

2006 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph - France, Rhne, Northern Rhne, St. Joseph (12/25/2008)
Fantastic stuff. Fully ripe, big, and intense. It needs some air to come together at this point. When first opened, it tasted like it has seen considerable oak -- stems? In any event, it's a beauty once it has a chance to open up.

2007 Von Hvel Oberemmeler Htte Riesling Sptlese - Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer (12/24/2008)
Pretty sharp, not too austere, but intensely mineral. Not as transparent as I had hoped.

2007 Weingut Keller Westhofener Kirchspiel Riesling Sptlese - Germany, Rheinhessen (12/24/2008)
Not quite sure what to make of this one. It was a bit reticent. The aromatics were nice -- it smelled like a fresh apple orchard -- but the palate didn't give up much at this stage. It seemed to be right down the middle in terms of style, perhaps tending towards the restrained side of the spectrum.

2007 Willi Schaefer Graacher Himmelreich Riesling Kabinett #2 - Germany, Mosel Saar Ruwer (12/24/2008)
Beautiful aromatics but as with a few other recent 2007ers, the palate was not showing much.

2006 Domaine Etxegaraya Iroulguy Cuve Lehengoa - France, Southwest France, Pays Basque, Iroulguy (12/14/2008)
Very, very nice. Still showing some puppy fat.
 
originally posted by Cliff:
2006 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph - France, Rhne, Northern Rhne, St. Joseph (12/25/2008) Fantastic stuff. Fully ripe, big, and intense. It needs some air to come together at this point. When first opened, it tasted like it has seen considerable oak -- stems? In any event, it's a beauty once it has a chance to open up.

Hm.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Cliff:
2006 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph - France, Rhne, Northern Rhne, St. Joseph (12/25/2008) Fantastic stuff. Fully ripe, big, and intense. It needs some air to come together at this point. When first opened, it tasted like it has seen considerable oak -- stems? In any event, it's a beauty once it has a chance to open up.

Hm.
How many times need I say it here? Syrah has elements that occur naturally that many can confuse with oak. I've had Syrah raised in stainless steel, never having seen oak, that has oak-like elements to it. It takes a lot of experience to sort it out. Get over the oak/non-oak analysis obsession and just enjoy/don't enjoy what there is without the ideology.
 
Hey, I've seen it! Otherwise, I'd have blithely insisted it really was oak. If I had been going by a single taste, before it had a chance to air out, I might not have gone back, which would have been a huge mistake.
 
I heard the stuff about the 2001 Lessona being on a plateau or a butte or whatever. So I tried to open one last night. Instead, I opened a 2001 "Zoppo" by mistake. It was OK last night, better tonight. No hurry on this one. It still does have a little caramel, which bothers me, but I won't take a guess as to it's source, maybe someone dropped a Werthers in the tank/barrel. In any event, I'll try to select more carefully next time I'm on a mission, so to speak.
 
Great notes, Cliff.

I agree on the regular '01 Lessona. Drink now! And the '01 Zoppo, no rush, but pretty now. Just had the '06 Gonon and also agree. With some air, the oakiness fades. I'm not worried about that one in the long run.

I've just started drinking the '02 Coudert wines again and think the Coudert Tardive is starting to show well again, but agree there's really no rush.
 
originally posted by Cliff:
2006 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph - France, Rhne, Northern Rhne, St. Joseph (12/25/2008) Fantastic stuff. Fully ripe, big, and intense. It needs some air to come together at this point. When first opened, it tasted like it has seen considerable oak -- stems? In any event, it's a beauty once it has a chance to open up.

Are you deranged?
 
originally posted by Joe Dressner:
What does puppy fat mean? I've never understood this geek phrase.

I think "puppy fat" means "fat." With the added bonus of the cute word "puppy," meaning you find the fat cute.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:

originally posted by Cliff:
2006 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph - France, Rhne, Northern Rhne, St. Joseph (12/25/2008) Fantastic stuff. Fully ripe, big, and intense. It needs some air to come together at this point. When first opened, it tasted like it has seen considerable oak -- stems? In any event, it's a beauty once it has a chance to open up.

Are you deranged?

Why yes, of course. But what does that have to do with anything?
 
originally posted by Cliff:
more stuff2007 Jean Foillard Morgon Cuve Corcelette

While this didn't wow me, it was open and expressive...This seems broadly similar to last year's Cotes de Py...

I don't think the Corcelette is supposed to wow anybody, although it is an open and expressive cuvee. Curous that it was similar to the CdP. In what way?

Beautiful aromatics but as with a few other recent 2007ers, the palate was not showing much.

This would explain some recent experiences of mine with 07 Germans. I guess I should wait despite my instincts to drink and explore.
 
I thought the Courcelette was a special, old-vine version. No? I haven't had Foillard's Cotes de Py this year, but my recollection of last year's version (not a CNP) was that it was pretty flat when it landed. It took awhile to come around.

Of the 2007 Germans I've had -- not a huge sample -- a Weins-Prum WS Kab was wide open, expressive, and beautiful maybe a month ago. Most of the others have been fairly mute on the palate.
 
Oops, my bad. Got confused with the acronyms. As I say, the CdP didn't show much last year. It seemed to have more density than the 07 Courcelette, but it's tough to get a read on them at this point.
 
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