TN: In the Cellarish Place (Feb 23, 2019)

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
attendees: Ira, Marc, Brian, Jeff, Jayson, John, Chris

Another gathering at the quiet end of a wine shop in a far-flung side of Manhattan. Don't get me wrong, we're opposite a Lamborghini dealership and there's a Danny Meyer restaurant on the corner. But we are at some remove.

I arrive a half hour after starting time and, don't you know, Ira and Marc have already got the bottles lined up from light to heavy. I guess I'm supposed to work my way from right to left -- they're facing Ira, who is sitting across from me -- so here goes:

J. B. Becker 2013 Wallufer Walkenberg Riesling Spatlese Trocken, Alte Reben - 37030 003 14, 13.5%, tangy, structured, fruitless, this sets a new standard for 'austere'; several people say this is better than most other Becker bottles they've tried but I find this too taut to be at all enjoyable

Dom. Pepiere 2000 Muscadet "Cuvee Eden" - This cuvee is no longer made. Its schisty components have been reassigned partly into the Gras Mouton and partly into the Saint Fiacre bottlings. I find this bottle nice but not distinctive; others like it better... "Pineapple" -Jayson, "Foccaccia" -John

Luneau-Papin 2002 Muscadet "Semper Excelsior" - made from old old vines from Clos des Noelles, this bottle is more attractive... good acidity, flavors are a tad ripe, there is a hint of something else (oak? caramel?)

Marco Carpineti 2017 Bianco "Capolemole" - IGT Bellone, hand-carried, anise and turmeric, this is rich and boldly yellow-fruity, we all like; on Days 2 and 3 this continues strong, heading even vaguely towards creamsicle flavors

Pascal Henriot 2017 Coteaux de Champlitte - shy at first, but then bursts into a floral mid-palate, strong in the nose but plays nicely with food

Oikonomoy 2012 Sitia White VQPRD - the maker is transliterated "Econemou", vilana 70% thrapsathiri 30%, wine from Crete, released only when the maker thinks it is ready, juicy, perhaps very slightly ox'ed but nice texture, bring on the seafood

O. Horiot 2013 Rose des Riceys "En Valingrain" - palest red, potent nose, red fruit and baby aspirin, just-so astringency, wow bottle

Lapierre 2000 Beaujolais "Le Cambon" - this is a single vineyard bottling of very old vines at Ch. Cambon (J-C Chanudet), but, alas, this bottle of it is corked

Balagny 2016 Fleurie "En Remont" - wine from the eponymous parcel (but blended in this year with some juice from another nearby parcel), "peppers and pickle juice" -Jayson, great nose, almost like a Chinon (but less aggressively green), palate is a bit flat so overall good but does not persuade me to buy

Ceritas 2013 Pinot Noir, Hellanthal Vineyard - strange thing: the pinot flavors are charmingly cherry-berry but the finish stings way above its 12.5%, meh

Bernard Gripa 2016 Saint-Joseph - taut, earthy, dry and drying, seems really good but desperately young and hard to evaluate, do not disturb for 5-10 years

Ravenswood 1991 Merlot "Sangiacomo" - great Right-Bank nose, tobacco and orange peel, my only complaint is it is a little thin on the palate, perhaps had they blended a bit of that other common stuff (I think it's cab) into it?

Ch. Montelena 2000 Petite Sirah - "Barrel 95-146, Specially Selected by Sherry-Lehman on Friday, May 17, 2002", TANNINS, STRUCTURE, FRUITLESS, quite the bookend to the Becker

While we're here we may as well taste the store's pours:

Maccario Dringenberg 2017 Dolceacqua "Luvaira" - What kind of an Italian name is Dringenberg? anyway, this is reduced, skinny, OK by the boatload, if you catch my drift

Bedrock 2017 Old Vines Zinfandel - 14.4%, hot, sweet, "Tutti-frutti and hot" -Jayson

Luneau-Papin 2017 Muscadet "L d'Or" "Granite" - great wine, stony, stern but with a little fruit, bring on the shellfish!

As always, many thanks to Marc for hosting us.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Danny Meyers

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originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
O. Horiot 2013 Rose des Riceys "En Valingrain" - palest red, potent nose, red fruit and baby aspirin, just-so astringency, wow bottle

So is this a rosé, or is that just the name of the AOC? Hard to tell from the note, and from the brief reading I just did via google. Although sounds very nice and interesting. (I guess no surprise it's an LDM wine)
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Danny Meyers

!!

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
O. Horiot 2013 Rose des Riceys "En Valingrain" - palest red, potent nose, red fruit and baby aspirin, just-so astringency, wow bottle

So is this a rosé, or is that just the name of the AOC? Hard to tell from the note, and from the brief reading I just did via google. Although sounds very nice and interesting. (I guess no surprise it's an LDM wine)

It's a Coteaux Champenois rosé. Quite the yum.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

J. B. Becker 2013 Wallufer Walkenberg Riesling Spatlese Trocken, Alte Reben - 37030 003 14, 13.5%, tangy, structured, fruitless, this sets a new standard for 'austere'; several people say this is better than most other Becker bottles they've tried but I find this too taut to be at all enjoyable

Interesting. These wines are one of my absolute favorites. And I drink at least 20 or 30 bottles of this kind of Riesling for each Kabinett or Spätlese that is off dry. Would have been fun to taste with you and compare the descriptions.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Danny Meyers

!!

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
O. Horiot 2013 Rose des Riceys "En Valingrain" - palest red, potent nose, red fruit and baby aspirin, just-so astringency, wow bottle

So is this a rosé, or is that just the name of the AOC? Hard to tell from the note, and from the brief reading I just did via google. Although sounds very nice and interesting. (I guess no surprise it's an LDM wine)

it's a rose because it is defined as a rose by the aoc, but maceration on a rose des riceys is 6 to 8 days, and it has every bit as much colour as lots of red burgs, so it seems that it is a rose in name only.

i visited marie and olivier a few years back. lovely people.

at wineterroirs.com there's a quite thorough writeup on the rose des riceys appellation, and it focuses on the producer emmanuel horiot, no known relation to olivier and marie horiot.
 
My note on the Horiot: Lifted high-toned cherry and swirling pink grapefruit with unadulterated pure palate presence and real length. Keeps drawing everyone back. Semi-carbonic Pinot Noir (foot-trodden base covered with whole cluster), plus extended aging on the lees and no sulphur added, leads to a deeply colored, 12.5% magical wine. I can’t overstate how good this wine is

I agree the AOC and maybe local tradition identify this as a Rosé but it’s not really.
 
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