A couple interesting 2012s

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Trotereau Quincy VV. We had whatever the current release was of this last summer and I fell super hard...a really terrific old vine, elegant, complex wine that is very much its own thing, not PF or Sancerre but a little more of that robust Touraine SBness (remember SB #2 everyone? Pretty different than that, frankly better (sorry!) but some of that bruiser French farmer energy). This 2012 is that with some age - echoes of aged Cotat, Ladoucette Baron L, with some of those aftershavey aged SB bits, even a little Cheniny (more downriver golden bell Savennieresishness). These sorts of wines for me usually fall into the admire vs. love category, but this wine somehow manages to be more in the latter category.

Diochon MaV VV. I have never loved Diochon, sort of in the same category as the Thivin CdBs which I respect and admire but never really want to glou glou. This one, though, mmm. Right at the perfect amount of Crubeau ageyness, somehow primary, secondary, and tertiary all at the same time. And MaVey too. Yes!

And probably worth a mention that once again, really old vines simply crush every time.
 
On this theme 2012 Clos Roche Blanche L’Arpent Rouge, brought by Kirk to the CRB dinner, was magical drinking the other night. I’m not convinced Pineau D’aunis gains complexity with extended bottle age, so this may be in a perfect spot.
 
originally posted by BJ:
I have never loved Diochon, sort of in the same category as the Thivin CdBs which I respect and admire but never really want to glou glou..
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Agreed. Diochon and Thivin have never touched me. I cannot say they are *worse* than the Beaujolais I do love, and I have had some nice bottles. But for some reason I don't connect to their frequency. Maybe more exposure is required.
 
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
On this theme 2012 Clos Roche Blanche L’Arpent Rouge, brought by Kirk to the CRB dinner, was magical drinking the other night. I’m not convinced Pineau D’aunis gains complexity with extended bottle age, so this may be in a perfect spot.
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It has been pure magic from the day of its release until now and I expect that to continue to be the case for quite some time. Though I agree it’s hard to believe it can get any better.

Sigh,, I was looking forward to that dinner for over a year.
 
I had a similar reaction to the 2012 L’Arpent Rouge at a 2014 CRB horizontal dinner with a friend last year:

2012 Clos Roche Blanche Touraine L'Arpent Rouge - France, Loire Valley, Touraine (7/20/2018)
Clos Roche Blast!: A profound and towering Pineau d'Aunis, tendrils of celery salt, black pepper, and ripe dark fruit explode from the glass and latch on to the pleasure centers of my brain from the first sniff from the glass. Each sip brings me further under its spell, as slightly grainy tannin provides a foundation that allows the flavors to linger. It's a magical and wonderful wine and this bottle not only showed no signs of decline, but suggests room for further growth, though I don't know that it can be much better. (94 points)
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
It has been oure magic from the day of its release until, ow and I expect that to continue to be the case for quite some time. Though I agree it’s hard to believe it can get any better.

Sigh,, I was looking forward to that dinner for over a year.
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It's "Ow!" and "Garn!" that keep her in her place....
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
It has been oure magic from the day of its release until, ow and I expect that to continue to be the case for quite some time. Though I agree it’s hard to believe it can get any better.

Sigh,, I was looking forward to that dinner for over a year.
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It's "Ow!" and "Garn!" that keep her in her place....
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I don't think it's very nice of you to say that Jay has wretched clothes and a dirty face.
 
Had another bottle of the 2012 Diochon last night...really delicious. Good note before. Cinnamon, strawberries, manganese (I swear I can taste it - veins of manganese run through the cru), perfect acidity, so a point right now.

For more run of the mill Beaucru vintages, 6-9 years seems about like the sweet spot, at least for me.
 
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