Serve the servants

MarkS

Mark Svereika
Let's get these out of the way before they become lost to history (or the silverfish get their way!). Over the many previous months I dare say...

Dauvissat, Chablis, 'Le Forets', 2007
Mushroomy saline scents and lemon-pear, woolen-coat finish. Light and delicate. Wish the price never shot up on these. B+/A-

Domaine Pegau, Chateauneuf-du-Pape, 2011
Slight brett with feral iron and spicy black plums, and furry tannins on the finish. A little muddled and not well-defined this year. B/B+

Benjamin David Duclaux, Maison Rouge, Cote Rotie, 2006
Red fruited with beefy iron notes with tannins that could use a few more years to sort out. Tastes of the soil. Nice notes of peppermint and licorice/fennel seed. First Duclaux wine and I am impressed. 13% A-/B+

Luigi Baudana, Barolo, 2010
Surprisingly accessible. Cherry-plum tart with fine tannins, good but youthful. Drinking more like a Gattinara than a Barolo. 5-7 more years? A-/B+

Biondi, Etna bianco, 'Outis', 2009
Mercaptans and lemon oil on the nose, giving way to an herbal base. Loses freshness with time, but still viable. Nice medium weight. B+
[90%Carricante/2.5% Cataratto/2.5% Minnella/2.5% Malvasia/2.5% Muscatella dell Etna) 12.5%

Simon Bize, Savigny-les-Beaune, 'Les Bourgeots', 2011
Tell-tale green elevens show, along with light cranberry-pomegranate and raspberry leaf and delicate tannic structure. B+/A-

Jaboulet, Cozes Hermitage, 'Domaine de Thalabert', 2010
Firmer, more structured, and stonier than a goopy 2009 tried a few months prior. No harm in drinking now, as the tannins don't stick out. Full of lovely sour plum and berry fruit with a tangy finish. Medium bodied. 13.5% B+/A-

Domaine Vacheron, Sancerre, 'Les Romaines', 2012
Flinty! Drying minerality and boxwood on the end. I imagine this has toned down the sharpness when it was more youthful. Nice, but a little one-note, and pricey for that (what,50-bucks?) B+/A-

Terredora Dipaolo, Taurasi, 2004
Mulled red-and black fruits, clay paper. Classy for a strong wine and in a good place now. Even smoother the next day. A-/B+

Forlorn Hope, Merlot, 'Onavolk', Calaveras County, Rorick Vineyard, 2014
Muted nose with some fecal notes. Rough and tumble for a merlot with tough, wiry tannins, thin red fruits and dusty oak. Can time alone make this elegant? B 12.9%

Monteraponi, Chianti Classico, 2015
Raspberry leaf and dusty wood tannin that should integrate in a couple of years. Slightly reduced the second day. 13.5% B+

Gianni Doglia, Monferrato Rosso, 2017
Nebbiolo. A little rough wine, with flowers and stems. Alcohol seems a little much for the size. 14% B/B+

Enderele & Moll, Baden, Pinot Noir, 'Muschelkalk', 2009
Raspberry and blackcurrant leaf with a sour green apple finish. More on the savory spectrum of pinot than fruit. Good dose of acid with lighter pinot flavors, perhaps better earlier than now. B+/A- 12.5%

Xose Lois Sebio Punal, Ourense, Ribeiro, 'Salvake', 2013
Yellow fruited and savory herbal notes along with hayseed and caraway, very mild lemon wash. Good flavored, even though it lacks a little complexity. 13.5% B+

Passopisciaro, Sicilia IGT, 2010
Very pretty. Flowery and sweetly floral jasmine-rose-gardenia with lightly grippy tannins. Crystalline and red-fruited. Straw-like texture on the finish. 14% A-

Alfredo Maestro, Castilla y Leon, 'La Vinuela', 2010
Coconut and red fruit. Plums, smoked paprika, musky with a sweet oak gloss. Tad simple. Blend of garnacha and tinto fino. 14% B+
 
My impression of the the E&M single vineyards is that they are better within a couple of years of release than they will be afterwards. But I don't really have anything to base that on, they're so unique. So maybe they'll be great in 25 years?
 
originally posted by Lee Short:
My impression of the the E&M single vineyards is that they are better within a couple of years of release than they will be afterwards. But I don't really have anything to base that on, they're so unique. So maybe they'll be great in 25 years?

I'm doubtful. In fact, compared to the Liason bottling, I think these lost their fresh quality for why I liked them so much.
 
I can see that. I was surprised when I saw the note for a 10-year old Muschelkalk. They've never struck me as long haul candidates. (And I don't have the cellar space to make those bets, so it doesn't really matter for me anyway)

But interesting note!
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Lee Short:
So maybe they'll be great in 25 years?

I'm doubtful. In fact, compared to the Liason bottling, I think these lost their fresh quality for why I liked them so much.

My expectation is much the same. Just saying that while I plan on emptying all my bottles on the early side, I'd be really curious to try someone else's bottle a number of years down the line.

So yeah -- Drain You is the best advice. But some bottle will get forgotten for 20 years, and I'm super curious to see how it comes out the other side.

Because that's pretty much uncharted territory, near as I know.

Here there be dragons, and all that.
 
originally posted by MarkS: Serve the servants more like a Gattinara than a Barolo.

Rightly or wrongly, I think of a Gattinara being smoother (maybe lusher) than a Barolo.

How would you characterize the difference(s) in Gattinaras and Barolos in general?

. . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:

Rightly or wrongly, I think of a Gattinara being smoother (maybe lusher) than a Barolo.

How would you characterize the difference(s) in Gattinaras and Barolos in general?

. . . . Pete

I feel Gattinara can drink very well in its youth: more accessible than Barolo, in that most Barolo clam-up fiercely about a year or two upon release only to grudgingly come out at some future point. Gattinara (and most Alto-Peidmontese) seem to have a longer drinking window and the muted phase doesn't seem as closed in as a Barolo can be. Perhaps the fresher acidity provides more lift?
 
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