vermentino anyone?

thanks Sharon....learn something new everyday. all that and more, even: corsica has 9 AOC appellations and a winemaking history that goes back to 570 BC apparently (just gleaned from wiki). sounds like an island with several grapes and wines to get lost in....look forward to trying more regional expressions of the vermentino/rolle....the corsican versions sounds intriguing.
 
Giacomelli "Boboli" (Colli di Luni) and Arena "Carco" (Corsica) are my personal favorites at the moment.

From Sardinia, Soletta's is decent. The Deiana "Arvali" is okay in a modern idiom. S. Maria La Palma "Aragosta", if drunk young and fresh, is excellent for the pittance required to purchase it.

I would be curious about Vio Giobatta from Liguria. I have only had the Rossese and the Pigato. The vermentino might have promise.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Giacomelli "Boboli" (Colli di Luni) and Arena "Carco" (Corsica) are my personal favorites at the moment.

From Sardinia, Soletta's is decent. The Deiana "Arvali" is okay in a modern idiom. S. Maria La Palma "Aragosta", if drunk young and fresh, is excellent for the pittance required to purchase it.

I would be curious about Vio Giobatta from Liguria. I have only had the Rossese and the Pigato. The vermentino might have promise.

What was the one we had a dinner that night that I liked so much?

Don't like Massa Vecchia? That would be my favorite, even if it isn't pure.
 
originally posted by VLM:

What was the one we had a dinner that night that I liked so much?

Don't like Massa Vecchia? That would be my favorite, even if it isn't pure.

You liked the Boboli '06.

I do like Massa Vecchia in general. But I haven't seen the straight Vermentino in this market since the '00 vintage.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I do like Massa Vecchia in general. But I haven't seen the straight Vermentino in this market since the '00 vintage.

looks like the massa vecchio blanco is now a blend - mostly vermentino, with sauv b, malvasia, ansonica and trebbiano. before that, it seems the wine was called arriento, and was 100% vermentino.
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I do like Massa Vecchia in general. But I haven't seen the straight Vermentino in this market since the '00 vintage.

looks like the massa vecchio blanco is now a blend - mostly vermentino, with sauv b, malvasia, ansonica and trebbiano. before that, it seems the wine was called arriento, and was 100% vermentino.

Comparing the '97-'00 Ariento with the current Bianco, it seems like the Ariento was made in a more oxidative fashion.

I really liked the '00 Ariento. The '97 was terribly past it's drink by date when I had it about 2 years ago, however.
 
cut'n paste job from polaner selections.....

"Domaine Antoine Arena may well be the premier wine from the island of Corsica. Almost all of it is sold to the top wine shops in Paris. The locals in Corsica aren't very familiar with it and can't drink it, as it's not available there. It's so rare on Corsica that on those occasions when it's actually available in the island's shops, fights have arisen among people who are desperate to drink it.

......Arenas work completely rewrites the rule book for Vermentinu (Vermentino): made this way, it can happily stand comparison with Pinot Gris or Viognier. His 2000 Carco, for example, billows with scents of bacon and banana, in the mouth it is plump, luscious and exotic. The 1999, with a year on its fine lees, is a creamier, subtler wine with salty-sweet edges. The 2000 Grotte di Sole Vermentino, which has reached about 16.5% alcohol before giving up fermenting, is honeyed, oozing fruit as is a November harvested 1999 version packed with apricot and fig. The ever curious Arena is also working with an old Corsican variety called Bianco Gentile: his 2000 cuve was picked at 16% potential alcohol, and is a massive and exotic confection of tropical fruits, honey and melon, with a salty fire at its heart, too. Arena also uses the Carco and Grotte di Sole names for his Nielluccio-based (Sangiovese) reds. The Carco, a so-called vin de soif, is vivid with raspberry fruit; the Grotte di Sole, produced from lower yields, combines something of the bitter-edged sophistication of Tuscany with explosive fruit and mineral flavours."
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
He's also imported into the US by Dressner.

Antoine Arena

are all the Arena wines that huge in abv? that's quite amazing. the descriptions of the wines are surely attractive, but i think i'd want a very soft carpet under me upon opening a bottle.
 
FWIW, I've reserved a 1.5 acre plot to plant vermentino in Manchuela. I'm hopeful but ignorant of the results we'll get, but we have many points in common with Sardinia.

A modicum of trivia: vermentino (verment in Catalan) was originally a Spanish grape variety, which was planted in Sardinia, Corsica and Liguria as early as the Renaissance, then was almost lost and forgotten in Spain itself. Just a few plantings subsist in Catalonia, but there's a bit of a rebirth of interest here.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by VLM:

What was the one we had a dinner that night that I liked so much?

Don't like Massa Vecchia? That would be my favorite, even if it isn't pure.

You liked the Boboli '06.

I do like Massa Vecchia in general. But I haven't seen the straight Vermentino in this market since the '00 vintage.

The Bianco isn't straight, but it is mostly. Seems vermentino enough for me.
 
originally posted by VS:
FWIW, I've reserved a 1.5 acre plot to plant vermentino in Manchuela. I'm hopeful but ignorant of the results we'll get, but we have many points in common with Sardinia.

A modicum of trivia: vermentino (verment in Catalan) was originally a Spanish grape variety, which was planted in Sardinia, Corsica and Liguria as early as the Renaissance, then was almost lost and forgotten in Spain itself. Just a few plantings subsist in Catalonia, but there's a bit of a rebirth of interest here.

That is pretty interesting Victor. Know of any interesting producers? For me, they don't necessarily have to be "natural".
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by VLM:

What was the one we had a dinner that night that I liked so much?

Don't like Massa Vecchia? That would be my favorite, even if it isn't pure.

You liked the Boboli '06.

Shit. It's $45 retail.
 
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