TN: Cellar Hangout with Cheese (Nov 16, 2019)

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
attendees: Marc, Ira, Jayson, Hart, Jay, Jeff

Another hangout day at the "cellar" on the west side of Manhattan.

This time, it turned into Cheese-ageddon: Jay promised to bring a Rush Creek Reserve. For the uninitiated, this is the American answer to Vacherin Mont d'Or... washed rind, raw cow's milk, wrapped in spruce, and made only in the fall. It's a great cheese but one cheese will not suffice for half a dozen drunkards all afternoon.

Vowing not to bring a hopeless no-name, I visited a local fromagier and came away with a half pound of The Best Cheese In The World: Rogue River Blue. Also raw cow's milk, also seasonal, it is wrapped in syrah leaves macerated in pear liqueur. It is a bit crumbly, not strongly blue, a touch sweet, a touch snappy, really excellent cheese.

Jay also brought a chunk of Arethusa Blue, the Best Blue Cheese in America. It was quite good, firm and fudgy, but there was some leftover. (Quelle horreur!)

Rounding out the old milk festival was a wedge of "Goatlet" (cow/goat blend, firm, raised in the underground Brooklyn storage mentioned in a nearby thread), a pretty vigorous Comte (not sure of the age but can't be more than a year), and an anonymous Dutch cheese.

The table filled out with several baguettes and other loafs and flatbreads, some olives, artichoke hearts, salami, and an entire smoked duck.

We're ready.

We were born ready.

But now we've got victuals so we're really ready.

Go!

Thomas-Labaille 2004 Chavignol "Les Monts Damnes" - oxidized, a (monts) damnes shame

F. Cotat 1999 Sancere "Les Monts Damnes" - very pretty and well-balanced, no longer young and vigorous but maturity has not brought senescence either

Dauvissat 2007 Chablis 1er "Les Preuses" - textbook chablis but starting to show signs of oxidation; this bottle suggests drinking-up but I feel that provenance is very important for Dauvissat (because I've had good bottles of wine that many others have already written-off)

Meulenhof 2012 Erdener Treppchen Riesling Spatlese "Alte Reben" - 2 582 038 1113, 8%, a regular normal Mosel flavor profile but with a bit of extra substance, reminds me a little of the green-wood smell of snapping a twig, great QPR wine

Selbach-Oster 1997 Zeltinger Sonnenuhr Riesling Spatlese* - 2 606 319 002 98, attack is full and rich and Pezzy but the mid-palate falls away faster, I think something is wrong here

Willi Schaefer 1997 Graacher Domprobst Riesling Spatlese - 2 583 154 12 98, beautiful, sweet-ish

Etienne Dupont 2015 Cidre Bouche Brut de Normandie - 5.5%, organic, unfiltered, unpasteurized, and... yup, that's Normandy cider: lean, bouche, more useful as a beverage than as an aperitif

Mystery Wine! - it's red! the bouquet is rich in pyrazines, though not thoroughly velveteen with them, so therefore a blend that includes cab franc rather than a varietal; oof, the palate is lean and grippy with a subdued florality/berry-ality that gives no clue; no one is really much taken with this one and we are one and all surprised to see it unwrapped: Ch. Bel Air Marquis d'Aligre 2001 Margaux GC Exceptionnel

Jean-Paul Brun (Terres Dorees) 2009 Morgon - so fresh! transparent, leafy (but not in an underripe way), especially after two recent unsatisfying 2009s it was nice to be able to be wowed; Day 2: same; Day 4: pretty much the same but the florality has settled a bit towards geranium and the red-berry-ness has simplified to cranberry/mulberry

Clos Roche Blanche 2014 Touraine "Cuvee Pif" - cot and cab franc still doing well (though I mistook them for pineau d'aunis!), there is a hint of leathery brett here so I might drink up, enjoy its vigor, and don't let the wee beasties over-power it

Ch. Rayas 1997 Cotes du Rhone "La Pialade" - kinda lifted for a heap of grenache, OK

Alexis Lichine (Dom. Jean Meo, Proprietaire) 1972 Clos Vougeot GC - 375ml; Mark Golodetz bottle; a whiff of chlorine at first but then a robust 'old Burgundy' nose of red cherries overlaid with Juicy-Fruit, palate is tactile, acidity is decent, pretty amazing

Dom. Tempier 1998 Bandol - foursquare, not much progress in 21 years, eh

Sequoia Grove 1991 Cabernet Sauvignon - beautiful, autumnal, not much leather but forest floor and just enough acidity to keep it all together, yum

I Vigneri (S. Foti) 2014 Etna Rosso "Vinupetra" - after a recent disappointing Vinudilice this was another pleasant surprise: juicy, vivid, fresh, resin and black cherry, Ira calls it "pizza wine" but I think it's a step better than that

Labet 2009 Pinot Noir "Les Varrons" - suave, light, bright red fruits (think Rose des Riceys with a bit of extra sour), energizing wine

O. Horiot 2014 Coteaux Champenois Riceys Rouge "En Barmont" - speaking of which, here's the rouge!: "Spicy" -Ira, Corton-like cherries and earth, the nose is more enticing than the palate (which just lacks a little excitement)

Zind-Humbrecht 1994 Gewurztraminer "Hengst" GC VT - 4.1 brix rs, lovely nose but a medicinal mouth, starts falling apart, meh
 
That Rogue River Blue was a truly great cheese. Rush Creek Reserve was no slouch either. Arethusa Blue was very good but outclassed by its company.

For me the stars of the day were the slightly bretty 2004 CRB Cot (thank you Mark!) and the 1972 Lichine/Meo Clos Vougeot which needed a surprising amount of air to open up.

The 2014 Pif was really good but needs more time.

Other standouts were the Cotat, the Schaefer and at a lower level the open and friendly Meulenhof. 2012 Mosels seem to be in a surprisingly good place at the moment.

Somehow I missed the Rayas, Labet and Horiot. They must have been hidden among all the bottles at the other end of the table.

The Zind Humbrecht did nothing for me. Too over the top. I liked the Tempier much more than Jeff.

The Sequoia Grove was very good but not quite as good as I expected from the producer and vintage.

The cider was a bit out of place but a lot of fun. Enjoyed it a lot.
 
I like what Arethusa Farms is doing, but even though the blue is its best known product, it is my least favorite. The Europa (Gouda-esque), Tapping Reeve, Camembert, Cru Baby (Swiss!), Bella Bantam, Mt Tom (Swiss again!), are all great, pure cheeses. The milk is amazing, best I've had since Guernsey. I have yet to try the ice cream, yoghurt, or the restaurant, but they are all on the list!

From fancy shoes to a fantastic dairy!
 
‘14 Cuvée Pif per David Bowler wines is 60% Cot and 40% Cabernet Franc with tiny amounts of Cabernet Sauvignon and Pinot d’Aunis.

Thanks for all the recent notes Jeff.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
I like what Arethusa Farms is doing, but even though the blue is its best known product, it is my least favorite. The Europa (Gouda-esque), Tapping Reeve, Camembert, Cru Baby (Swiss!), Bella Bantam, Mt Tom (Swiss again!), are all great, pure cheeses. The milk is amazing, best I've had since Guernsey. I have yet to try the ice cream, yoghurt, or the restaurant, but they are all on the list!

From fancy shoes to a fantastic dairy!

I had hoped to try the Tapping Reeve but the Murrays outlet in Grand Central only had their blue.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by scottreiner:
I like what Arethusa Farms is doing, but even though the blue is its best known product, it is my least favorite. The Europa (Gouda-esque), Tapping Reeve, Camembert, Cru Baby (Swiss!), Bella Bantam, Mt Tom (Swiss again!), are all great, pure cheeses. The milk is amazing, best I've had since Guernsey. I have yet to try the ice cream, yoghurt, or the restaurant, but they are all on the list!

From fancy shoes to a fantastic dairy!

I had hoped to try the Tapping Reeve but the Murrays outlet in Grand Central only had their blue.

The blue is the only one I can find in NYC; it's a pain in the ass.
 
Dang, sounds like fun. I was just reorganizing some wine and had my hands on several bottles of that 09 Brun Morgon...glad to hear it's getting there...I am still holding off on the 09s...
 
Rogue River Blue is the bomb. For those of you in the Boston area, they have it in at Wasiks.

Click here for some cheese porn.

Thanks for the notes Jeff, including a few I am considering pulling for our family dinner this week.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Dang, sounds like fun. I was just reorganizing some wine and had my hands on several bottles of that 09 Brun Morgon...glad to hear it's getting there...I am still holding off on the 09s...

In a great spot. You would be hard pressed to guess this was from a ripe vintage. Thought it was fabulous and would not hesitate to pop one. You will not regret it.
 
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