TN: Luis and William and Monica and Stephan Visit (Nov 25, 2019)

Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
attendees: Luis, William, Stephan, Monica, Jayson, Ira, Suzanne, Sasha+Delia, Greg K, Brad, Jeff

Jayson organized a Grand Cru jeebus at Racines with extra-special guests, WA writers Luis Gutierrez, William Kelley, Monica Larner, and Stephan Reinhardt. Bombast and snark were playfully deployed and everyone enjoyed the evening, including Arnaud and the Racines staff (who I think stayed open an hour longer for us).

The food was served family style, shared plates for each four-top. I think we had one of everything the kitchen makes. Many of them were excellent, I especially remember the appetizers Lentils with Trout Roe and the Steak Tartare. Among the mains, even the somewhat inappropriate BoBo Chicken was delicious.

Our tables were arranged linearly so, alas, no one could sit next to everyone. Yours truly grabbed a seat in the middle and hoped for the best.

The wines:

Gosset 1996 Champagne Brut "Grand Millesime" - magnum; classic, creamy and full and vinous, a hint of hazelnuts is its only admission of its age; shapely acidity (like most 1996s), great way to start

William's chenin - a glass being passed around; from 25 year old vines near Clarksburg, made in a longish fermentation in old barrels/demi-muids; texture seems a little thin, I think I can taste the neutral wood undergirding the wine; the general shape of the wine is like a Bourgogne Blanc, no surprise given its papa

Robert Denis 1989 Touraine-Azay-Le-Rideau Sec "Vignes de la Gaillarderie" - unicorn wine that has had it's 30 years so let's see... nose is kinda skimpy of Pez and old lady's pocketbook but the palate is rich and full, a flicker of butter dashes through, the finish is long and slightly grippy, ending with a discordant note of tin cup

Marc Colin 1988 Chassagne-Montrachet 1er "Les Caillerets" - "A stinker" -William; immediately, coffee grounds; then a ne plus ultra wine of sultanas and fresh apricots and orange blossom, vivid and round, and I don't like Chardonnay generally

R. et V. Dauvissat 2007 Chablis 1er "La Forest" - OTH, though William tries to revive it in a decanter

Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial - thanks to Luis; smooth texture and golden tones, white flowers and sweet pineapple but savory (not like a Sauternes), definitely old wine: it spent 252 months in barrel, 67 months in tank, and 36+ months in bottle; given the price this will become a modern unicorn

Weiser-Künstler 2018 Enkircher Steffensberg Riesling Trocken - 2 601 562 08 19; beautiful and complex nose full of peach and a touch of cinnamon, arresting; the palate is similar but surprisingly fainter

Trimbach 2002 Riesling "Cuvee Frederic Emile" - magnum; "The color is a little advanced" -Suzanne, everyone agrees on that; assertive palate of pleather gets in the way of some green grape/golden raisin riesling fruit; does not suit me

Ch. Gruaud-Larose 1978 Saint-Julien - magnum; very tobacco nose, delicate and transparent, it's too fragile to have with food (for example, a crusty piece of wheat bread overwhelmed it, for example) but it's gorgeous up on a pedestal by itself

Ch. Calon-Segur 1970 Saint-Estephe - immediately, graham crackers; then just gorgeous, the real deal Bordeaux blend of tobacco and leather and plum and black currant with one shovelful of wet earth somewhere in the back; one of the best wines of the night

Hofgut Falkenstein 2017 Niedermenniger Herrenberg Red Wine Trocken - 3 525 672 10 19; taut and snappy and light, I like the style of this (later I read there is no malo-lactic), "Not enough there there" -Suzanne

Ch. de Beaucastel 1989 Chateauneuf-du-Pape Rouge - palate is better than the nose but fugly and weird; as you might imagine, others liked it better than I did

Kalin Cellars 1980 Pinot Noir - pretty mostly via its age, I think; not floral but there is a loamy, in-a-backyard-garden feel to it

Monterosso 2016 Etna Rosso "Sisma 16" - nerello mascalese, lightweight, lots of red berries and minerals, those volcanic soils show through, I like this

Clos du Mont-Olivet 1998 Chateauneuf-du-Pape "Cuvée du Papet" - magnum; immedately, black tea; made from very old granache vines (mostly) this has style and grace that is unusual for Ch9, especially in a solar year; delicious

Ch. Montrose 1975 Saint-Estephe - it's good but it's plain, perhaps just too old

Michel Grisard Dom. Prieure Saint Christophe, Lot M14 "Tradition" - mondeuse; very lean and dry, kinda hard to like; the 2014 vintage was the last made by Grisard so perhaps that explains the shorthand labelling

A. Pelizzatti 1974 Valtellina Superiore "Inferno" - OTH

Jos. Drouhin 1999 Bonnes-Mares GC - beautiful, echt Burgundy, stuffed with potential, hold another 20 years, this was infanticide

Pierre Gonon 2006 Saint-Joseph VV - a singing bottle, we're all enthralled by the unicorn wine; cassis, blackberry, graphite, hints of tarragon(?) and smoke; great syrah

Frat. Minuto 1964 Barolo Riserva Speciale - OTH

Olga Raffault 2014 Chinon "Les Picasses" - sorry, no note!

La Visciola 2015 Cesanese del Piglio "Priore Vignali" - nice to see the autochthonous grape, I had several varietals when I was in Lazio last year; this is very representative of the type: blue-fruited, savory, modestly tannic, just enough acidity to keep it interesting; mild wine that is tasty but getting shouted-down at this busy table

Huet 1976 Vouvray Moelleux "Clos du Bourg" - "about a B+" -Brad; good and typique, the sweetness is fading back a bit (which is good), palate is not showing much complexity though (which is bad)

Skerk 2017 IGT "Ograde" - a skin-contact white but you'd never pick it up, muscatty florals run roughshod over a tight palate, might be better when it opens up

Fräulein Brösels Vogelbeeregeist - strong enough to run a diesel engine but flavors so pure, bright cherry and cranberry, amazing

F. Bedel 2011 Champagne Brut "Entre Ciel et Terre" - from a pinot meunier specialist, just so ripe, this is pretty but not especially distinguished

Dom. Le Briseau 2016 Jasnieres "Kharakter" - it's much too late in the evening for temperamental chenin; typique Loire chenin, a bit warm/waxy/almondy but nothing exciting here

sake - medium-weight, dry but fragrant and rich, alas no English on the bottle:
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originally posted by Jeff Grossman:


Hofgut Falkenstein 2017 Niedermenniger Herrenberg Red Wine Trocken - 3 525 672 10 19; taut and snappy and light, I like the style of this (later I read there is no malo-lactic), "Not enough there there" -Suzanne

Not the wine you would expect to stand out in such a crowd. But sounds like you liked it.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:


Hofgut Falkenstein 2017 Niedermenniger Herrenberg Red Wine Trocken - 3 525 672 10 19; taut and snappy and light, I like the style of this (later I read there is no malo-lactic), "Not enough there there" -Suzanne

Not the wine you would expect to stand out in such a crowd. But sounds like you liked it.

Yes and yes. It is not as intense an experience as many of the others but it has its own panache. I can appreciate a wine that isn't too big for its cup.
 
I can wait to read about this in the Hedonist Gazette (where the Wine Advocate writes up informal dinners) to see how many points each wine gets. My bet is 85 for the Falkenstein and 97-99 for the Gonon.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:


I can wait to read about this in the Hedonist Gazette (where the Wine Advocate writes up informal dinners) to see how many points each wine gets. My bet is 85 for the Falkenstein and 97-99 for the Gonon.

You can actually find points on wine disorder, if you just go to the right threads.

When at my calmest, I am usually found brandishing bottles of Falkenstein Pinot at defenseless tasters, screaming "you think Andi Knauss makes an Ohne Alles? Taste this!"
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial - thanks to Luis; smooth texture and golden tones, white flowers and sweet pineapple but savory (not like a Sauternes), definitely old wine: it spent 252 months in barrel, 67 months in tank, and 36+ months in bottle; given the price this will become a modern unicorn

A good friend shared a bottle a few months ago. Definitely a singular experience and judging by the way it unfolded over the course of several hours it seems like it has a long life ahead of it.
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial - thanks to Luis; smooth texture and golden tones, white flowers and sweet pineapple but savory (not like a Sauternes), definitely old wine: it spent 252 months in barrel, 67 months in tank, and 36+ months in bottle; given the price this will become a modern unicorn

A good friend shared a bottle a few months ago. Definitely a singular experience and judging by the way it unfolded over the course of several hours it seems like it has a long life ahead of it.

Agreed. This was my wine of the night. A very special wine that Luis was generous in bringing. Wonderfully harmonious and weightless. The cost has definitely gotten nuts. Nine years ago when I was in Spain, Luis opened a '46 Ygay Blanco that was also off the charts, so the '86 has miles to go.

The Robert Denis and Marc Colin also showed quite nicely of the whites. A few standouts on the reds for me were the Gonon, Calon Segur and I liked that La Visciola Cesanese del Piglio Priore Mozzatta. With that Drouhin, I actually found the wood too pronounced.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial - thanks to Luis; smooth texture and golden tones, white flowers and sweet pineapple but savory (not like a Sauternes), definitely old wine: it spent 252 months in barrel, 67 months in tank, and 36+ months in bottle; given the price this will become a modern unicorn

A good friend shared a bottle a few months ago. Definitely a singular experience and judging by the way it unfolded over the course of several hours it seems like it has a long life ahead of it.

Agreed. This was my wine of the night. A very special wine that Luis was generous in bringing. Wonderfully harmonious and weightless. The cost has definitely gotten nuts.

I believe the wine was released in 2016 and it looks like you can still easily purchase it at the release price. So, technically, the cost was always nuts. But it's a bargain compared to a bottle of Coche-Dury Corton-Charlemagne.
 
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial - thanks to Luis; smooth texture and golden tones, white flowers and sweet pineapple but savory (not like a Sauternes), definitely old wine: it spent 252 months in barrel, 67 months in tank, and 36+ months in bottle; given the price this will become a modern unicorn

A good friend shared a bottle a few months ago. Definitely a singular experience and judging by the way it unfolded over the course of several hours it seems like it has a long life ahead of it.

Agreed. This was my wine of the night. A very special wine that Luis was generous in bringing. Wonderfully harmonious and weightless. The cost has definitely gotten nuts.

I believe the wine was released in 2016 and it looks like you can still easily purchase it at the release price. So, technically, the cost was always nuts. But it's a bargain compared to a bottle of Coche-Dury Corton-Charlemagne.

Yes, released four years ago. I meant nuts as in release price vs where white Rioja was in the overall scheme of things not too long ago.
 
I think I was the only one not floored by the Gonon VV. Which isn’t to say I didn’t like it. It’s undeniably special and intense but at least now lacked the nuance / complexity / detail of a truly great N. Rhône red. That could come with time however.

The Calon was great, my favorite of the reds. So sweet and beautifully resolved with a long and dynamic finish but plenty of structure still to keep evolving. Such an elegant St Estephe. I just wish Greg had decanted it properly. It would have been even better.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Skerk 2017 IGT "Ograde" - a skin-contact white but you'd never pick it up, muscatty florals run roughshod over a tight palate, might be better when it opens up

That's young. These can age well: just had the 07 only a month or two ago.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
To be fair, the 2006 Gonon VV is not only a unicorn, but also a genuinely great wine.

You made a believer out of me.

Moi aussi. One of my two favorite wines (with the 1995 Verset) out of a spectacular group of wines.
 
I have a bottle of Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial that I plan on opening tomorrow - would you suggest decanting or slowing drinking between 2 people?
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:


I have a bottle of Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial that I plan on opening tomorrow - would you suggest decanting or slowing drinking between 2 people?

Both.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:
I have a bottle of Marques de Murrieta Castillo Ygay 1986 Rioja Blanco Gran Reserva Especial that I plan on opening tomorrow - would you suggest decanting or slowing drinking between 2 people?
No need to decant: it was released ready to drink.
 
I went with the pop and pour and enjoyed over 2.5 hours. The wine was good but not worth the price and not close to some of the great Lopez blancs including the 57 which is a top 10 wine for me.
 
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

I went with the pop and pour and enjoyed over 2.5 hours. The wine was good but not worth the price and not close to some of the great Lopez blancs including the 57 which is a top 10 wine for me.

I like the wine but agree for me it’s not at the level of LdH greats. A couple caveats. Tough to compare it to a wine 30 years older. And I do think it needs a lot of air. Which is why I suggested decanting.
 
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
originally posted by Robert Dentice:

I went with the pop and pour and enjoyed over 2.5 hours. The wine was good but not worth the price and not close to some of the great Lopez blancs including the 57 which is a top 10 wine for me.

I like the wine but agree for me it’s not at the level of LdH greats. A couple caveats. Tough to compare it to a wine 30 years older. And I do think it needs a lot of air. Which is why I suggested decanting.

Based on my couple of experiences with this wine I believe you missed out on a lot of what it had to offer by not decanting and only drinking over 2.5 hours.
 
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