Jeez Louise!

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Jeff Grossman

Jeff Grossman
I just received an offer of Mugneret-Gibourg 2017 NSG 1er "Chaignots" for $210.

I paid $47 for the 2006 version.

Guess I'm buying domestic pinot noir for the foreseeable future.

Woof.
 
And that price is likely prior to the tariffs.
If you are staying domestic, let me recommend Vincent Wines in Oregon. I buy a case of Ribbon Ridge yearly when the producer runs a sale. A lot of quality for a little money.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
And that price is likely prior to the tariffs.
If you are staying domestic, let me recommend Vincent Wines in Oregon. I buy a case of Ribbon Ridge yearly when the producer runs a sale. A lot of quality for a little money.
Best, Jim
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Big fan of Vincent’s Pinot Blanc and Gamay myself.
Also fabulous value.
 
originally posted by georg lauer:
The really sad thing is that the least of that money ends up at the winery.
Ex cellar price must be still under 70$.
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Close, but a bit more than that. If we were to sell our standard 3-tier bottles at retail, our standard mark-up price would be $173.99.

The ex-cellar price has risen 20%+ since 2014. As far as I can tell that has been reflected in the price that I get through my importer.

Mugneret-Gibourg has become kind of crazy in terms of the market price. I think that's partially because of grey marketers who do not get allocations through the 3-tier system are sourcing bottles at higher prices. It also could just be retailers taking a bit of extra margin where they can for a scarce item they can move quickly to make up for all of the inventory that doesn't turn over as fast. I have no problem with that.

More to the point I think you were making about the money staying at the domains rather than other people in the supply chain. I'm sympathetic to this with many vigneron, but not in Burgundy. Those vineyards have been paid for for a long time and AFAIK there isn't property tax on the current value of the vineyards, only on what they produce. All of this is to say that they are doing just fine. Burgundy is no longer a region of struggling farmers, it's a region of Land Rovers not Pugeots.

In principle, I agree with you. However, in practice, I'm much more concerned for vigneron in other places that work as or more conscientiously for wines that trade for an order of magnitude less ex-celler.
 
originally posted by VLM:
In principle, I agree with you. However, in practice, I'm much more concerned for vigneron in other places that work as or more conscientiously for wines that trade for an order of magnitude less ex-celler.
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That is certainly true.
But that still does not make the pricing for burgundy in certain markets ok (good dealers in Europe sold this bottle for 90$). And it is important for people to know where the money is actually going.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Jeez Louise!I just received an offer of Mugneret-Gibourg 2017 NSG 1er "Chaignots" for $210.

I paid $47 for the 2006 version.

Guess I'm buying domestic pinot noir for the foreseeable future.

Woof.
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Look to Germany! Assuming we do not have 100% tariffs.
 
Label drinkers got into Gibourg in a big way. But there's no reason to buy $200 trophy Chaignots when you can still buy Gouges' at a normal price.
 
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