Not paying attention, even vague attention, to recent Beaujolais vintages
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Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
2013 Foillard 3.14 has my #
2013 might be hard to find in the US. I do like 2016 the best of the past three vintages. We drank several cases of 2016 Brun Beaujolais L'Ancien "Le Buissy" and I also like the 2017 Brun Fleurie Grille Midi (both are 12.5%), but 2017 is fruitier than 2016 and 2018 is even fruitier and has less acidity.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
interesting choice, coming from you.
I'll need to explore the possibility of your tolerating a healthy dose of sensationalism in high-quality(*) art, cinema, etc., next time we clink glasses.
(*) that is not under debate here
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
Lot's of great art, particularly literature, but also painting, has sensationalism. Hard to imagine Michelangelo or Shakespeare without it, much less most great Victorian fiction.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
I don't know who I am, so I'm glad some of you do.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Two years ago I also really enjoyed the 2013 Eponym, which Foillard makes with purchased grapes. It's super quaffable, whereas the 3.14 is just plain super (in 2013). Only the Py has let me down in 2013.
scottreiner
scott reiner
While I like the '17, the '18 Tardive and non have my heart.
I really need to try the 2018s as you're not the first person to say this.
I've been struggling with Coudert lately, finding it hard to catch them in a good spot for me. Of all the Beaujolais, this is the one that can be so shut down as to be borderline unpleasant but great bottles are transcendent so you can never give up. I wonder if the manganese in the soil makes them tricky or if I mis-remember the easier pleasures of long ago vintages.
I wonder if I should be decanting these.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Bill Lundstrom
Bill Lundstrom
*raises hand reluctantly* i own a lot too.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
2005 was really good recently.
Nathan, I think I relate. Coudert has for so many years been consistent...but some of the recent vintages have not been typical, at least to me. Not even necessarily not good...more just not what I think of as Coudert, which has historically had a very consistent core.
I am going to pay more attention, though - I can't say I've been all that attentive.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Actually, I had exactly that trouble when I first learned about Coudert. Just couldn't find one that I liked and I avoided them for a number of years. The oldest I have now is 2009.
I think I would decant Coudert almost all the time. Wakes it up.
Monkey-
Scott, Pascaline and I tasted the '18 Tardive at the Bowler tasting last March and couldn't believe how good it was. I think we all felt that it was the best one we'd tried. There may have been an informal agreement to not talk about it publicly until we each had purchased some...
I opened a bottle of '10 Griffe tonight with the intention of calling you out as crazy for suggesting (in a thread a couple weeks ago) that it would be over the hill at this stage, but I rather found myself in agreement. A lovely nose on opening but fully resolved and almost soft structure with rather faded fruit and a mostly rooty earthy character. I am stunned to see it so far on the downslope at 10 years old. Have one more but don't see much future upside.
The ‘17 Coudert Griffe is the one to get Brad. The 18s are quite something too, but on the big bold side of the spectrum.
Sad to hear the 2010 may be over the hill. I have a couple of these as well and thought they had great potential to age when I tried a couple after they were released.
Sad to hear the 2010 may be over the hill. I have a couple of these as well and thought they had great potential to age when I tried a couple after they were released.