Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
It might have if Charpenterie were the correct spelling.
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Impressions August 2020, Part III
- Thread starter VLM
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It might have if Charpenterie were the correct spelling.
originally posted by Nathan Odem:
Great notes, Nathan, but it would be nice if you could consolidate them into one post.
Ha! I'll take that under advisement...
originally posted by Nathan Odem:
Like many others here I adore Briords, but I have also struggled with '18. Seems uncharacteristic (and currently unappealing) to me. Vintage, I know.
Ian, I drank '09 Cot a couple weeks ago. I can't discourage you from drinking it now - it's very good. But no rush either. Follow your heart.
Well put, especially with the Côt. The wine really tugs on the heart strings for some reason.
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
originally posted by VLM:
2015 Hobo Wine Company Zinfandel Branham Vineyard Rockpile - USA, California, Sonoma County, Rockpile (8/28/2020)
Shazaam! Looks like this is *starting* to open up a bit although it is still a tense wine for Zinfandel reminiscent of the claret style Zinfandel from the 80s. Briary and dusty with spices surrounding a strong core of fruit that tends towards the red side. The last glass is what got me so excited as it seemed to pop in that beautiful way that wines can. Thinks just released and spread out. I stopped half way during writing this note to make sure I can get a case of the most recent release. I'm not sure why Kenny and Lynn's wines aren't more famous as this is my favorite Zinfandel and I can't imagine that my palate is that weird. I think a couple more years might bring everything together. (92 points)
"Claret style" Zin from that appellation is quite an achievement.
My understanding from Kenny is that Rockpile is the coldest AVA in Dry Creek and one of the cooler in Sonoma generally. I've never seen this Zinfandel over 13.5% in alcohol and generally under 13%.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
I had the 2018 Tiberio Trebbiano d'Abruzzo tonight. What was remarkable was how steely dry and a bit monolithic and tight it was before food (but after some reduction blew off) and then the explosion of lemony intensity and retronasal penetration with food. A salad of Italian lettuces / leaf veges and sliced green olives in a lemon oil dressing. A Chicken Milanese topped with an Arugula fennel salad. Great dinner table wine.
Christian Miller (CMM)
Christian Miller
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
originally posted by VLM:
2015 Hobo Wine Company Zinfandel Branham Vineyard Rockpile - USA, California, Sonoma County, Rockpile (8/28/2020)
Shazaam! Looks like this is *starting* to open up a bit although it is still a tense wine for Zinfandel reminiscent of the claret style Zinfandel from the 80s. Briary and dusty with spices surrounding a strong core of fruit that tends towards the red side. The last glass is what got me so excited as it seemed to pop in that beautiful way that wines can. Thinks just released and spread out. I stopped half way during writing this note to make sure I can get a case of the most recent release. I'm not sure why Kenny and Lynn's wines aren't more famous as this is my favorite Zinfandel and I can't imagine that my palate is that weird. I think a couple more years might bring everything together. (92 points)
"Claret style" Zin from that appellation is quite an achievement.
My understanding from Kenny is that Rockpile is the coldest AVA in Dry Creek and one of the cooler in Sonoma generally. I've never seen this Zinfandel over 13.5% in alcohol and generally under 13%.
Funny - I've both heard and tasted almost the opposite. Although I admit both date back 5-10 years, I haven't paid much attention to the area recently. Could be a case of blind men and the elephant; maybe the combination of altitude, aspect and picking time has a huge impact. It's a very jumbled terrain, although most of it is above the fog line.
I'll have to check out this version. When restrained - as in Preston, Rafanelli or Quivira in the Grady Wan era - Dry Creek is my favorite Zin AVA
originally posted by Jayson Cohen:
I had the 2018 Tiberio Trebbiano d'Abruzzo tonight. What was remarkable was how steely dry and a bit monolithic and tight it was before food (but after some reduction blew off) and then the explosion of lemony intensity and retronasal penetration with food. A salad of Italian lettuces / leaf veges and sliced green olives in a lemon oil dressing. A Chicken Milanese topped with an Arugula fennel salad. Great dinner table wine.
Yep, that's what I've been saying. I think it's a very good wine and when you thro win the value it makes it that much better.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
Mike, Nathan, and Nathan:
Thanks for chiming in on the Roche Blanches Cot. I think my heart says to take my time with my remaining three.
Cool, I didn't know there was a site. Do you happen to recall the abv for the Zinfandel?
I tried an under-$20 Hobo Cabernet maybe 10 years ago, which was quite good, and once opened a Parts and Labor, which didn't grab me. The Ghostwriter Santa Cruz, however, I've opened three bottles of over the years, and it's one of very few California Pinot Noirs I would seek out (full disclosure - my experience of California Pinots is limited). It will be tempting to buy a mixed sampler from the source.
Have you tasted through other Hobo-family wines? The Riesling, Gewuerztraminer? What's the back story to the French imports they offer?
Cheers.
Thanks for chiming in on the Roche Blanches Cot. I think my heart says to take my time with my remaining three.
originally posted by VLM:
From Hobo, I'd check out the Rockpile wines (although the Zinfandel needs some cellar time). The Aglianico is under 13% alcohol so it is svelte but still tannic. With the right food (we had it with a rich pasta) it's perfect.
From Folk Machine, I really like the Brosseau Pinot Noir but really like all of the wines. The Valdiguié, Charbono and Cinsault are especially fun.
From Ghostwriter the Syrah should be especially interesting to Disorderlies. It's stylistically similar to what Eric is doing. More savory and low alcohol (under 12%). We recently had a smashing bottle of 2013 Bates Caberenet and he probably won't have that fruit source for long so I'd grab a few.
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Cool, I didn't know there was a site. Do you happen to recall the abv for the Zinfandel?
I tried an under-$20 Hobo Cabernet maybe 10 years ago, which was quite good, and once opened a Parts and Labor, which didn't grab me. The Ghostwriter Santa Cruz, however, I've opened three bottles of over the years, and it's one of very few California Pinot Noirs I would seek out (full disclosure - my experience of California Pinots is limited). It will be tempting to buy a mixed sampler from the source.
Have you tasted through other Hobo-family wines? The Riesling, Gewuerztraminer? What's the back story to the French imports they offer?
Cheers.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
So, last night we opened a 2012 Domaine Pfister Pinot Gris Tradition 13,5%. Aroma was pretty, but fairly standard white flower & minerals (wet granite). Before food, it seemed a little short on acidity and a bit bitter. Texture was slightly oily and the envelope ends a tad sweet. Age seems to have given it some substance and gravitas, but it didn't really press many pleasure buttons. However, my in-laws, who are at the beginning of their wine adventure, really loved it. Could well be a fine wine which just doesn't have my number.
That being said, the back label says "bottled by André Pfister and his daughter Mélanie," so she probably was not in full control at the time. Plus the variety is not exactly the world's greatest.
That being said, the back label says "bottled by André Pfister and his daughter Mélanie," so she probably was not in full control at the time. Plus the variety is not exactly the world's greatest.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Two nights ago a 2007 Collier Ripaille was terrific, just sublime. Last night a 2010 Baudry Croix Boissée was very good, but suffered from the comparison. Herbaceous and floral, zero brett, fine balance and texture, no sign of oak, but there was something moldy about the flavor that compromised the experience.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Ah, that's sad to hear. It should age effortlessly.originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Two nights ago a 2007 Collier Ripaille was terrific, just sublime. Last night a 2010 Baudry Croix Boissée was very good, but suffered from the comparison. Herbaceous and floral, zero brett, fine balance and texture, no sign of oak, but there was something moldy about the flavor that compromised the experience.