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MarkS

Mark Svereika
Gilbert & Christine Felettig, Chambolle Musigny, 'Clos le Village', 2011
Yeah it's a twenty-eleven but, so what? It tastes good, and is a nice light to mid-weight Burgundy that mines the heavy savory flavors of the year but does so with grace. Red fruited, aspirin, and a bit of pan bacon grease on the end. B+

Chateau Saint Anne, Bandol, 2013
Some stinky sweatsocks on the nose along with darkish fruits. This really needs a lamb stew instead of drinking alone without food. Has a nice rusticity of the mourvedre grape along with a dash of syrah-like riper fruit and some quinine. I can see this developing leather with age. Good stuff, too bad it's so hard to find. A-

Marcel Lapierre, Morgon, 'Cuvee MMIX', 2009
A hint to all the newbies: if you see a "cuvee" on a Bojo, Run like hell! This is big, rich, and ripe, and at 14.5% alcohol, you feel the heat. Overly extracted with a bitter sacharine note. Feels awkward and overwrought. Unrated, but could still be a B. Ended up cooking with most of it.

Ganevat, Cotes du Jura, Chardonnay, 'Les Chalasses Vieilles Vignes', 2009
Onto a (much) better 2009. A sweet caramel butter note with walnuts and citrus blossoms on the end. This is taking on aged chardonnay flavors, and - while still good - was perhaps better 2-4 years ago? 13.5% A-/B+

Clos Cibonne, Côtes de Provence, Tibouren, 'cuvèe Speciale des Vignettes', 2014
Ahhh....aged rosé...what's not to like? Intriguing color, a cross between citrine and rose quartz, but definitely on the yellower side of that spectrum. Whatever. Has the typical herbal aromas and a slightly oxidized strawberry, tarragon. Such a unique and special rosé. 13% A-/B+

Brovia, Barolo, 2008
Black cherry, blackberry, and orange rind make their appearance on the nose and palate, it's youthful tasting but oh-so-good right now. I'd wager these will still be going strong in 10-15 years, but nothing wrong with opening this classy juice now. Even better with a little air and at a slightly cooler temperature (think this was opened on a 90-degree day). 14% A-

Edmunds St. John, Sonoma County, Dry Creek Valley, 'Rocks and Gravel', 2013
13.1% A rose petal nose. Pretty, like drinking candied watermelon juice with cucumber slices tossed in. Although thinnish in feel, this is really medium-bodied in the glass. Tastes somewhat sweet and confected with a slight bit of bubblegum. Still a little grip from the tannins on the end. [50% grenache/25% mourvedre/25% syrah] A-/B+

J.J. Prum, Graacher Himmelreich, Riesling, Auslese, 1990
Medium burnished gold color. Dried apricot and only the slightest hint of petrol on the nose. Tastes drier than what we now think of as auslese, this is Very fresh for a 30-year old wine. Not over the hill at all. The dried apricot is there in the mouth along with amchur powder. Although not the most complex in dimension, texturally, this is brilliant. There is enough acidity to carry through, despite this being a warm year at the time. 7.5% A-/A

Ismael Gozalo [MicroBio] Vino de la Tierra de Castillia y León, 'Sietejuntos', 2014
Bright plum aromas out of the glass. Bright red/black plums, mashed raspberries (think of making jam before the sugar is added), nice little saline bite. Medium weight, medium acidity, perhaps similar in style to a Texier syrah (which this is 100%). A wine of good balance and restraint and fun to drink. The tannin seems to have evaporated. 13.5% A-
 
originally posted by MarkS:

Brovia, Barolo, 2008
Black cherry, blackberry, and orange rind make their appearance on the nose and palate, it's youthful tasting but oh-so-good right now. I'd wager these will still be going strong in 10-15 years, but nothing wrong with opening this classy juice now. Even better with a little air and at a slightly cooler temperature (think this was opened on a 90-degree day). 14% A-

Really nice notes; I experienced lots of pleasure on the A.C, Barolo in 2018-2020 as I opened these pretty wines. I'm sure they ain't going to die over the next 10 years but ain't they nice now! Perfectly complex.
Waiting on the Ca' Mia from 2008.

J.J. Prum, Graacher Himmelreich, Riesling, Auslese, 1990
Medium burnished gold color. Dried apricot and only the slightest hint of petrol on the nose. Tastes drier than what we now think of as auslese, this is Very fresh for a 30-year old wine. Not over the hill at all. The dried apricot is there in the mouth along with amchur powder. Although not the most complex in dimension, texturally, this is brilliant. There is enough acidity to carry through, despite this being a warm year at the time. 7.5% A-/A

i've got a magnum of 1996 Wehlener-Sonnenuhr and cannot wait to open it soon. Or sell it :')
 
originally posted by MarkS:
Marcel Lapierre, Morgon, 'Cuvee MMIX', 2009
A hint to all the newbies: if you see a "cuvee" on a Bojo, Run like hell! This is big, rich, and ripe, and at 14.5% alcohol, you feel the heat. Overly extracted with a bitter sacharine note. Feels awkward and overwrought. Unrated, but could still be a B. Ended up cooking with most of it.
That seems a little unfair to "cuvee". That was a hot year and all the wines are blowsy. The "cuvee" wines often receive grapes from older vines or better plots so, in a cooler vintage, are really more interesting to drink.
 
Coudert makes a very nice Cuvée-labelled Beaujolais.

Also funny, because not sure how many newbies there are on this board!
 
Starting to suspect the MMIX will never be good. Most other 2009s are very pretty now, even the ones that were fruit bombs on release. The MMIX isn't good now and wasn't good on release either. But I keep holding them back from Winebid because it seems no horizontal of the vintage would be complete without it. Damn OCD!
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Coudert makes a very nice Cuvée-labelled Beaujolais.

Also funny, because not sure how many newbies there are on this board!
The welcoming committee's reputation precedes itself.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by MarkS:
Marcel Lapierre, Morgon, 'Cuvee MMIX', 2009
A hint to all the newbies: if you see a "cuvee" on a Bojo, Run like hell! This is big, rich, and ripe, and at 14.5% alcohol, you feel the heat. Overly extracted with a bitter sacharine note. Feels awkward and overwrought. Unrated, but could still be a B. Ended up cooking with most of it.
That seems a little unfair to "cuvee". That was a hot year and all the wines are blowsy. The "cuvee" wines often receive grapes from older vines or better plots so, in a cooler vintage, are really more interesting to drink.

I think the only thing "unfair" was the attack this made upon my wallet.
What a waste of money. Perhaps I can sell to Keith for his vertical?
 
I miss the traditional welcome wagon very much.

Nothing lasts forever, I guess.

Unrelated, is it true there are other wine boreds, and, if so, what purpose do they serve?
 
originally posted by Nathan Odem:
I miss the traditional welcome wagon very much.

Nothing lasts forever, I guess.

Unrelated, is it true there are other wine boreds, and, if so, what purpose do they serve?

I could be Joey D and give his usual greeting: "Who the hell are you?"
Will this suffice?

And wine boreds always have a purpose: they serve the workers.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by Nathan Odem:
I miss the traditional welcome wagon very much.

Nothing lasts forever, I guess.

Unrelated, is it true there are other wine boreds, and, if so, what purpose do they serve?

I could be Joey D and give his usual greeting: "Who the hell are you?"
Will this suffice?
Fuck. No.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
Ganevat, Cotes du Jura, Chardonnay, 'Les Chalasses Vieilles Vignes', 2009
Onto a (much) better 2009. A sweet caramel butter note with walnuts and citrus blossoms on the end. This is taking on aged chardonnay flavors, and - while still good - was perhaps better 2-4 years ago? 13.5% A-/B+

Is this sous voile? I can't keep track of all of the Ganevat cuvées and the KL site isn't explicit. When wines are aged so long in barrel and/or with sous voile I'm not sure that they get too much better with age. I feel the same way about a lot of orange wines. By the way, I see that as a feature not a bug.

originally posted by MarkS:
Clos Cibonne, Côtes de Provence, Tibouren, 'cuvèe Speciale des Vignettes', 2014
Ahhh....aged rosé...what's not to like? Intriguing color, a cross between citrine and rose quartz, but definitely on the yellower side of that spectrum. Whatever. Has the typical herbal aromas and a slightly oxidized strawberry, tarragon. Such a unique and special rosé. 13% A-/B+

I agree, it is a special rosé. I've had the chance to taste some older ones and they can be really interesting although I'm not sure they are my bag, exactly.

I appreciate the rest of your notes although I don't have any of the wines. It's been a long time since I've had Ste. Anne Bandol, for example.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by MarkS:
Ganevat, Cotes du Jura, Chardonnay, 'Les Chalasses Vieilles Vignes', 2009
Onto a (much) better 2009. A sweet caramel butter note with walnuts and citrus blossoms on the end. This is taking on aged chardonnay flavors, and - while still good - was perhaps better 2-4 years ago? 13.5% A-/B+

Is this sous voile? I can't keep track of all of the Ganevat cuvées and the KL site isn't explicit. When wines are aged so long in barrel and/or with sous voile I'm not sure that they get too much better with age. I feel the same way about a lot of orange wines. By the way, I see that as a feature not a bug.

No, not sous voile. I only have a couple of Ganevat's sous voile wines and those are all savagnin. He certainly does have so many cuvees now that I can hardly keep track either; think I read at one time he was doing around 60/year?
 
originally posted by Nathan Odem:
I miss the traditional welcome wagon very much.

Nothing lasts forever, I guess.

Unrelated, is it true there are other wine boreds, and, if so, what purpose do they serve?

Many years ago (maybe it was back on wine therapy), having become irritated with the silly, effusive greetings of other boreds, I suggested that our greeting be some version of fuck you. I was surprised to see this take off and become traditional. So much so, that probably, most of you around here think that I have become Al Gore claiming to have invented the internet. As long as it was the expected greeting (since most first time posters probably start as lurkers), it was amusing. If it put off someone who wouldn't be likely to enjoy this bored, that also didn't seem a bad result. But, after a time, it had outlasted its purpose and become merely an incomprehensible vulgarity that had to be explained rather than merely used. I was happy to see it go away, though I do remember Eric Asimov, in one of his rare posts here, bemoaning that he had not been so greeted. I still think it is a tradition long since more honored in the breach than the observance.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by MarkS:
Ganevat, Cotes du Jura, Chardonnay, 'Les Chalasses Vieilles Vignes', 2009
Onto a (much) better 2009. A sweet caramel butter note with walnuts and citrus blossoms on the end. This is taking on aged chardonnay flavors, and - while still good - was perhaps better 2-4 years ago? 13.5% A-/B+

Is this sous voile? I can't keep track of all of the Ganevat cuvées and the KL site isn't explicit. When wines are aged so long in barrel and/or with sous voile I'm not sure that they get too much better with age. I feel the same way about a lot of orange wines. By the way, I see that as a feature not a bug.

No, not sous voile. I only have a couple of Ganevat's sous voile wines and those are all savagnin. He certainly does have so many cuvees now that I can hardly keep track either; think I read at one time he was doing around 60/year?

About a decade ago, I tasted at Ganevat with Guilhaume. It was pretty exhausting. And Fan Fan was like the Energizer Bunny. Going, and going, and going....
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by MarkS:
Marcel Lapierre, Morgon, 'Cuvee MMIX', 2009
A hint to all the newbies: if you see a "cuvee" on a Bojo, Run like hell! This is big, rich, and ripe, and at 14.5% alcohol, you feel the heat. Overly extracted with a bitter sacharine note. Feels awkward and overwrought. Unrated, but could still be a B. Ended up cooking with most of it.
That seems a little unfair to "cuvee". That was a hot year and all the wines are blowsy. The "cuvee" wines often receive grapes from older vines or better plots so, in a cooler vintage, are really more interesting to drink.

I'd quarrel with you over the generalization here - my 2009 Foillards, Thivins, and Vissoux have been exemplary, nary a blowse in sight. I've barely dented my Coudert VT stash, but a recent note by Nathan suggests this wine is also fine.

I have a dim memory of tasting a MMIX at about five years old in D.C. and thinking it very good indeed. Maybe some of the 'elevated' Beaujolais cuvees aren't styled as vins de garde and should be enjoyed in youth - some recent notes on Griffe du Marquis wines (including a bottle of 2011 I opened this year) would not contradict this proposition.

Anyway, I have a small cache of MMXIV, for which I continue to hold high hopes.

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Nathan Odem:
I miss the traditional welcome wagon very much.

Nothing lasts forever, I guess.

Unrelated, is it true there are other wine boreds, and, if so, what purpose do they serve?

Many years ago (maybe it was back on wine therapy), having become irritated with the silly, effusive greetings of other boreds, I suggested that our greeting be some version of fuck you. I was surprised to see this take off and become traditional. So much so, that probably, most of you around here think that I have become Al Gore claiming to have invented the internet. As long as it was the expected greeting (since most first time posters probably start as lurkers), it was amusing. If it put off someone who wouldn't be likely to enjoy this bored, that also didn't seem a bad result. But, after a time, it had outlasted its purpose and become merely an incomprehensible vulgarity that had to be explained rather than merely used. I was happy to see it go away, though I do remember Eric Asimov, in one of his rare posts here, bemoaning that he had not been so greeted. I still think it is a tradition long since more honored in the breach than the observance.

Yea, Jonathan, I say unto thee, thou art a very Abraham of this erring tribe of Disorderlies. In the best possible sense.
 
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