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too dense, mensch. divorce and fucking are not often mutually compatible, which was it?
with maradona's daughter? you and teh monkey can fight it out.
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too dense, mensch. divorce and fucking are not often mutually compatible, which was it?
with maradona's daughter? you and teh monkey can fight it out.
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oh, don't waste those, you can do the flashcard thing next time we order at Joe's
unless you have many more
unless you have many more
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Fucking Muller. Does nothing all game long against Hoffenheim.
Except of course score the winning goal.
Except of course score the winning goal.
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Five points clear.
One point for each year in the five year plan!
If I had told you in August that Arsenal would be in first place on November 3rd by five points, and that Aaron Ramsey would be leading the team in scoring in the EPL, you would have searched my house for a Wine Advocate subscription.
One point for each year in the five year plan!
If I had told you in August that Arsenal would be in first place on November 3rd by five points, and that Aaron Ramsey would be leading the team in scoring in the EPL, you would have searched my house for a Wine Advocate subscription.
originally posted by .sasha:
Five points clear.
One point for each year in the five year plan!
If I had told you in August that Arsenal would be in first place on November 3rd by five points, and that Aaron Ramsey would be leading the team in scoring in the EPL, you would have searched my house for a Wine Advocate subscription.
Not exactly. I'd be surprised, but not shocked. That, and I am on record calling Ramsey "like Fabregas but with goals" (my EPL fantasy team name is "Ramsey for the Win").
Van Persie couldn't "paper over the cracks" at United again. Is there anyone at Tottenham that we would have signed but couldn't? We've been scouting Eriksen heavily for years. Does anyone really believe in Brendan Rodgers? Chelsea and City also with new managers. So, it isn't shocking that we're top. That being said, I'll be pretty elated and City and Chelsea will be pretty fucked, if it's that way in May.
I made a bet that Ramsey would be in the EPL team of the year before the season started, I think I'll get that jersey.
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Too many questions, but I'd like to zero in on one, which will take me to a more general point.
About Rodgers. It was actually a little sad to watch Liverpool this time around because the mixture of Barca-wannabe-via-Swansey-attack-together-and-defend-together approach Rodgers is supposedly bringing and a very static, strictly positional, English midfield play that he gets with Lucas and Gerard was bordering on schizophrenic, at best. To be a little kind to Rodgers, by the time he fields his best players, he is looking at a very different game from what I expect he dreamed of when he first arrived. So why doesn't he have different players by now?
Despite what Klopp has been saying about the drastic stylistic differences between Dortmund and Arsenal, Gunners essentially did to Liverpool what Dortmund had done to them. (I've already taken shit from more than one Arsenal supporter for this statement, but I am sticking with it). Arsenal did so without triple teaming the man with the ball most of the time, but the end result was the same - Liverpool could not pass their way out, from behind the 50 meter line.
How many games are won or lost strictly in midfield these days? Tons in Europe and UCL, fewer in England, but many more where Arsenal is involved, unsurprisingly. Which is why I am quite nervous about Wednesday, sans Flamini.
About Rodgers. It was actually a little sad to watch Liverpool this time around because the mixture of Barca-wannabe-via-Swansey-attack-together-and-defend-together approach Rodgers is supposedly bringing and a very static, strictly positional, English midfield play that he gets with Lucas and Gerard was bordering on schizophrenic, at best. To be a little kind to Rodgers, by the time he fields his best players, he is looking at a very different game from what I expect he dreamed of when he first arrived. So why doesn't he have different players by now?
Despite what Klopp has been saying about the drastic stylistic differences between Dortmund and Arsenal, Gunners essentially did to Liverpool what Dortmund had done to them. (I've already taken shit from more than one Arsenal supporter for this statement, but I am sticking with it). Arsenal did so without triple teaming the man with the ball most of the time, but the end result was the same - Liverpool could not pass their way out, from behind the 50 meter line.
How many games are won or lost strictly in midfield these days? Tons in Europe and UCL, fewer in England, but many more where Arsenal is involved, unsurprisingly. Which is why I am quite nervous about Wednesday, sans Flamini.
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originally posted by .sasha:
Which is why I am quite nervous about Wednesday, sans Flamini.
yips. yet i have some small %age of optimism based on what he is doing for "teh group." flamini sees the game beyond his own performance in a way that is rare, and i begin to see its influence in others, the character of the recent form (and on field behaviour, especially) of rosciky, for one.
d00d sets an example, and though i still fear his absence, it is nice to see that example is starting to filter through
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originally posted by .sasha:
Too many questions, but I'd like to zero in on one, which will take me to a more general point.
About Rodgers. It was actually a little sad to watch Liverpool this time around because the mixture of Barca-wannabe-via-Swansey-attack-together-and-defend-together approach Rodgers is supposedly bringing and a very static, strictly positional, English midfield play that he gets with Lucas and Gerard was bordering on schizophrenic, at best. To be a little kind to Rodgers, by the time he fields his best players, he is looking at a very different game from what I expect he dreamed of when he first arrived. So why doesn't he have different players by now?
I think it'll be hard to bring top quality players to Liverpool without UCL. Coutinho looks a great creator on a Europa League side. Count the number of times he tracked back compared to Özil or Cazorla, not to mention Ramsey.
Despite what Klopp has been saying about the drastic stylistic differences between Dortmund and Arsenal, Gunners essentially did to Liverpool what Dortmund had done to them. (I've already taken shit from more than one Arsenal supporter for this statement, but I am sticking with it). Arsenal did so without triple teaming the man with the ball most of the time, but the end result was the same - Liverpool could not pass their way out, from behind the 50 meter line.
Sort of. Dortmund play with a sort of manic aggression that is unlike anything else in Europe. I think they would be pretty vulnerable to someone like the Everton of the last couple of years with the sweeping diagonal balls. Against them I think it really pays to be able to beat your man on the dribble as they clog even the short passing lanes. It would be nice to have Theo back, because teams that press like this are susceptible to pace, and Dortmund in particular (although less so than Barca).
How many games are won or lost strictly in midfield these days? Tons in Europe and UCL, fewer in England, but many more where Arsenal is involved, unsurprisingly. Which is why I am quite nervous about Wednesday, sans Flamini.
It would certainly have been less challenging with Flamini and I'll be really interested how we line up. I'm guessing it will be Rosicky-Arteta again. I think Gnabry will be given a cameo late.
More terrible news about Wilshire. Fucking ankles.
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originally posted by VLM:
Despite what Klopp has been saying about the drastic stylistic differences between Dortmund and Arsenal, Gunners essentially did to Liverpool what Dortmund had done to them. (I've already taken shit from more than one Arsenal supporter for this statement, but I am sticking with it). Arsenal did so without triple teaming the man with the ball most of the time, but the end result was the same - Liverpool could not pass their way out, from behind the 50 meter line.
Sort of. Dortmund play with a sort of manic aggression that is unlike anything else in Europe. I think they would be pretty vulnerable to someone like the Everton of the last couple of years with the sweeping diagonal balls. Against them I think it really pays to be able to beat your man on the dribble as they clog even the short passing lanes. It would be nice to have Theo back, because teams that press like this are susceptible to pace, and Dortmund in particular (although less so than Barca).
There is more to it. You can beat Dortmund on the dribble like that, but you will fail more often than you will succeed, because you would normally have to beat a couple of guys; even Ribery has rarely attempted this. The big question is what happens when you lose the ball. They break quicker than the post-Ronaldo United did, but in the initial stages of the break they choose pace over precision, and there is an opportunity to cut them off. What Dortmund does at that point isn't rocket science, it's just that they do it so quickly. Bayern knew they would lose the ball to them, and they did, but they made sure to get it back. Enter Javi Martinez. This is why I missed Flamini two weeks ago.
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:
Despite what Klopp has been saying about the drastic stylistic differences between Dortmund and Arsenal, Gunners essentially did to Liverpool what Dortmund had done to them. (I've already taken shit from more than one Arsenal supporter for this statement, but I am sticking with it). Arsenal did so without triple teaming the man with the ball most of the time, but the end result was the same - Liverpool could not pass their way out, from behind the 50 meter line.
Sort of. Dortmund play with a sort of manic aggression that is unlike anything else in Europe. I think they would be pretty vulnerable to someone like the Everton of the last couple of years with the sweeping diagonal balls. Against them I think it really pays to be able to beat your man on the dribble as they clog even the short passing lanes. It would be nice to have Theo back, because teams that press like this are susceptible to pace, and Dortmund in particular (although less so than Barca).
There is more to it. You can beat Dortmund on the dribble like that, but you will fail more often than you will succeed, because you would normally have to beat a couple of guys; even Ribery has rarely attempted this. The big question is what happens when you lose the ball. They break quicker than the post-Ronaldo United did, but in the initial stages of the break they choose pace over precision, and there is an opportunity to cut them off. What Dortmund does at that point isn't rocket science, it's just that they do it so quickly. Bayern knew they would lose the ball to them, and they did, but they made sure to get it back. Enter Javi Martinez. This is why I missed Flamini two weeks ago.
Diagonal ball, cross, goal, win.
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originally posted by fatboy:
yips. yet i have some small %age of optimism based on what he is doing for "teh group." flamini sees the game beyond his own performance in a way that is rare, and i begin to see its influence in others, the character of the recent form (and on field behaviour, especially) of rosciky, for one.
best 88 mins i've seen little mozart play in years. wenger clearly thought so too.
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originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by fatboy:
yips. yet i have some small %age of optimism based on what he is doing for "teh group." flamini sees the game beyond his own performance in a way that is rare, and i begin to see its influence in others, the character of the recent form (and on field behaviour, especially) of rosciky, for one.
best 88 mins i've seen little mozart play in years. wenger clearly thought so too.
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Indeed! Interesting, given that in the same fixture two weeks ago he may have been the worst player on the field.
I don't know what Wenger said as I have not seen half the games yet so don't read the news.
But about little Mozart, was VLM prophetic or what, about the power dribble around the man Wilshere style? Except Wilshere would have probably held on to the ball for too long; this was just perfect, he'd go just enough to get out of the trap or even a potential trap, change the field of vision, and then pass. A difference of 1.5 seconds at the most, but what a difference.
Is this a fair result? I am torn. Dortmund had at least 5 very good chances (given their ability to convert), and yet I thought Arsenal did many, many right things.
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originally posted by .sasha:
Fucking Muller. Does nothing all game long against Hoffenheim.
Except of course score the winning goal.
"The False One"
heh.
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what the fuck was that? 94 minutes of play and then andre mariner decides the result.
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OLIC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sempre Olic !!!
Sempre Olic !!!
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originally posted by MLipton:
Spurs: 10 games, 9 goals, 20 points.
That's efficiency, of a sort.
really testing the boundaries of efficiency, aren't they?