Gonon pricing

Found in old English pubs... Pig and Whistle.

Louis XIV recipes for wine with saffron... Wig and Pistil.

Vineyards in Buena Vista planted by Zachary Taylor... Whig and Pistol.

Used in drunken TikTok videos... Pissed and Wiggle.
 
If old English pubs are eligible, there are countless additions. More or less all of them have names in the format of "[noun] and [other noun]".

About 20 years ago, I slurped quite a few glasses of beer at the Eagle and Child on St. Giles Street in Oxford. It is famous as having been a regular meeting place of CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien. It is more affectionately known as the Bird and Baby, or sometimes the Fowl and Fetus.
 
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
If old English pubs are eligible, there are countless additions. More or less all of them have names in the format of "[noun] and [other noun]".

About 20 years ago, I slurped quite a few glasses of beer at the Eagle and Child on St. Giles Street in Oxford. It is famous as having been a regular meeting place of CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien. It is more affectionately known as the Bird and Baby, or sometimes the Fowl and Fetus.

Not Aslan and Manwë?
 
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
If old English pubs are eligible, there are countless additions. More or less all of them have names in the format of "[noun] and [other noun]".

About 20 years ago, I slurped quite a few glasses of beer at the Eagle and Child on St. Giles Street in Oxford. It is famous as having been a regular meeting place of CS Lewis and JRR Tolkien. It is more affectionately known as the Bird and Baby, or sometimes the Fowl and Fetus.

In the Elephant and Castle district of London there is surely a pub called The Elephant and Castle, a rhymin' slang derivate of Infanta of Castille.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Bow and Arrow wines are usually sub-$30 and are really good.

The Bow & Arrow wines are excellent. Especially when you step up to the single vineyard Pinots. Full disclosure Scott is friend. I do think he intentionally wants to keep his prices reasonable. Which is of course is great. However I think his higher end wines are not taken as seriously as they should be given the quality level. I really can't think of a better Pinot at this price point.

Bow&Arrow
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Having visited Gonon, I can say that they are doing the work in the vineyards, and not relying on herbicides. Many in the area do rely on herbicides. You can’t really compare prices of the 80s, when herbicides were even more common, with the prices of today. It isn’t the same work.
This reminded me to go back to Levi's podcast with Jean Gonon. Great interview.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
in the last 3 vintages released ('15, '16, & '17) of bartolo mascarello barolo, retail has gone $140, $185, $259.

Similar story, at least US retail, on Burlotto Monvigliero. That’s the way love goes.
 
A comment from another bored:

Generally, we are in the midst of a phenomenon that I don’t see abating, which is the slow disappearance of top burgundy from US retail channels, or what I would call "normal retail," namely that the wine is publicly marketed for sale. This has been the case for at least 10 years for tier one producers, but it is starting to creep down to tier two and three producers. I’m talking about producers like Barthod, Dujac, Duroche, Bachelet, Jean Marc Bouley, Lafarge, Jouan, and Comtes Lafon. For all of these producers, the retail listings are shrinking every vintage, so that you see maybe 40 percent of the listings you saw even 5 years ago. These wines are simply getting distributed through "private client" mechanisms used at each level of the chain (and some direct to auction mechanisms, eg Liger Belair now selling a big chunk of his wines at auction and bypassing normal distribution). I would roughly call this the Robert Bohr business model creeping across the industry. The old Wildman model re: Domaine Rousseau, which is to actually place the wine with retailers (albeit with plenty of strings attached) is going the way of the dinosaurs.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
A comment from another bored:

Generally, we are in the midst of a phenomenon that I don’t see abating, which is the slow disappearance of top burgundy from US retail channels, or what I would call "normal retail," namely that the wine is publicly marketed for sale. This has been the case for at least 10 years for tier one producers, but it is starting to creep down to tier two and three producers. I’m talking about producers like Barthod, Dujac, Duroche, Bachelet, Jean Marc Bouley, Lafarge, Jouan, and Comtes Lafon. For all of these producers, the retail listings are shrinking every vintage, so that you see maybe 40 percent of the listings you saw even 5 years ago. These wines are simply getting distributed through "private client" mechanisms used at each level of the chain (and some direct to auction mechanisms, eg Liger Belair now selling a big chunk of his wines at auction and bypassing normal distribution). I would roughly call this the Robert Bohr business model creeping across the industry. The old Wildman model re: Domaine Rousseau, which is to actually place the wine with retailers (albeit with plenty of strings attached) is going the way of the dinosaurs.

Yep.
 
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