Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Good to hear that Montrieux is doing well post-Heredia.
CWD: What did you drink last night (or whenever)?
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Good to hear that Montrieux is doing well post-Heredia.
A very fine spread and wonderfully partisan in the selection. There is a world in which one could have structured an Argentine vs. French wine selection. But yesterday was not the day to drink in that world.
I therefore assume you were all as depleted as I was, after the penalties. Although you were buoyed by much finer wines! (On my end it was water and a bizarre American sports bar interpretation of a German pretzel, $24 with toppings unheard of in Deutschland)
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
young Jayson is wise beyond his years in selecting this
i thought it was brilliant in combining freshness with a seemingly deliberate maturity of fruit that makes the most of a ripe vintage in creating fabulous early complexity with balance. there is a texture to match the complexity which represents the best of natural wine to me; never shapeless but without an edge in sight. barely a hint of barnyard that induces nostalgia for a historic rendition of the grape in mareuil sur cher. +1 on the citrus. regrettably not in magnum.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
we opted for an olivier messiaen vs astor piazzolla hi-fi battle, and drank whatever was in the fridge
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Messiaen v. Messi. Nice.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
ok, i'll be the guy raising his hand in the classroom, having not completed last night's reading assignment
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
It's a classic love story. After Christian Chaussard died tragically in 2012 from one of those stupid tractor accidents, Emile Heredia was there to comfort his widow, ex-mime-comedian-clown Natalie Gaubicher. After a grace period the length of which I do not know, they fell in love, or at least one of them did, so Emile sold Montrieux in 2014 to Ariane Lesné, who was waiting in the wings, being herself a big fan of Verre des Poètes. The rest is (grapefruit) history.
Florida Jim
Florida Jim
Assume that you are speaking to someone who knows nothing about this wine (which would be accurate); what is it? Where does it come from? Is it rose? Are there other cuvées from the same house that are similar? Who owns the house? Etc?
(I not only didn’t read the assignment, I didn’t know there was one.)
Best, Jim
Salil Benegal
Salil Benegal
It's Cabernet Franc from the Loire (Touraine), a dry red. They make other wines that are good (I've had some of their base reds and vaguely recall a rosé that was solid), but this is an ungrafted/pre-phylloxera vine bottling from vines planting in 1860. Marc Plouzeau makes these wines and there's more info on his site: https://www.plouzeau.com/wp-content/uploads/Ante-Phylloxera_GB.pdf
I didn't read the assignment either, I was too busy drinking.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
Ariane’s got a way about her. Don’t know what it is. But I know that I can’t live without her, Pineau D’Aunis.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Found the 2020 Doucinello here for all of 18 europeans and opened it last night. The aromas were reticent and a little reduced (last minute decision, so pop & pour), but the mouthfeel was a winning combination of inviting fruitiness and serious structure. As anticipated, no noticeable oak flavors or textures, and the 14% was not felt, either in the liquid or in the flesh. So, in addition to a fine discovery -- for which I thank all above who contributed to my education -- it's a terrific qpr (on this side of the pod, at least).
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
Never responded to this. But I wouldn’t say depleted. Because I think ultimately Argentina deserved to win for how they played even if we were rooting for France. France showing up at the end of regulation and the action in OT made it an exciting match, for sure, but I can’t deny the energy and press on the ball and movement that Argentina brought for so much of the match, to which France had only just enough response at key moments to get to penalties.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
100% agreed. Even though I found myself rooting for France, not only because of the traditional rivalry with Brazil, but out of amazement that Argentina had not a single player of African descent. I better stop here.
robert ames
robert ames
the final was a truly great game, but 3 of the 6 goals that came during play were penalty kicks. getting hit in the arm by a shot that you don't even see perhaps should be considered an infraction, but to give a penalty kick--i.e., an (almost) certain goal--is way out of balance with the crime. if typical game scores were say on the order of 12 to 10, a p.k. would not be such a huge gift, but not where the total goals scored in a game are often 3 or less. please note i am just talking about the crazy criteria for the calling of hand balls, not tripping someone in the penalty area.
Agreed. I had to acknowledge that Argentina 'deserved' to win. Although I still felt depleted because of the swings of intense emotion.
But, that's the glory of being a sport spectator! (Sometimes I feel exhausted after watching one of my son's close matches, without even doing any running...)
Does seem tough. Although I recently just read that when the PK is a miss-and-you-lose-the-match proposition (as it was for KM in OT), the conversion percentage for the kicker drops to 60%. (Presumably even lower for high-pressure situations like WC finals)
Not to mention all the trickery Argentina employed during the PKs. All the credit to Mbappé for staying strong each time.
Still, I agree it is tough.