Who put fruits in my Poulsard?

I am, thanks.

I might even sleep tonight. You are a kind non-Joe soul to talk me down from the edge.
 
I have seen the Joe-on-Joe violence, and my conscience can no longer allow me to stand idly by.

It might be a crazy dream, but in my heart there is a place, somewhere that's green, where Joes can live in peace.
 
My comments were intemperate. I regret the tone.

Joe, go find a bottle of the '07 and report back. I found it a haunting, thrilling wine, easily holding its own in some very serious company ('93 Roumier Bonnes Mares could make many reds shrink in shame). Really, one of the best things I've had in ages. So I rose too vigorously to its defense.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
My comments were intemperate. I regret the tone.

Joe, go find a bottle of the '07 and report back. I found it a haunting, thrilling wine, easily holding its own in some very serious company ('93 Roumier Bonnes Mares could make many reds shrink in shame). Really, one of the best things I've had in ages. So I rose too vigorously to its defense.

You know, the Houillon Poulsard is such a beautiful wine that I can easily see making intemperate remarks in its defense.

I agree with regard to the 2007, too -- just gorgeous. Lighter, and even more ethereal and precise than usual?

jb (who's happy he doesn't bear the burden of Joeness)
 
Didn't Callahan and Stuart have a similar conversation about Overnoy Poulsard many moons ago?

I'm sure the page was Albanized, but something along the lines of a sweaty shepherdess exploding vs Overnoy being a swell guy and making authentic wine... blah, blah etc.

And you are getting the '07 already, huh. I just tried the 2006 which was very clean and not sweaty or dirty at all.
 
No problem. In Boston we call that pulling a "Kevin Garnett". I will try the wine and stand ready for the onslaught of fruit. FWIW, I have loved 50% of the Overnoy I have tasted.

Best,
Joe
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
The 2006 is fabulous.
Best, Jim

Yep.

And the 2002 is spectacular. And the 2004 is wonderful. And the 2007 is great. (Please feel free to re-arrange the descriptors as you see fit.) I haven't had a 2005.
 
Didn't Callahan and Stuart have a similar conversation about Overnoy Poulsard many moons ago?

Yes, and "conversation" is being kind. This is a perilously polarizing wine. Perhaps it ought to come with a warning sticker: DRINK, BUT DO NOT DISCUSS.
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Didn't Callahan and Stuart have a similar conversation about Overnoy Poulsard many moons ago?

Yes, and "conversation" is being kind. This is a perilously polarizing wine. Perhaps it ought to come with a warning sticker: DRINK, BUT DO NOT DISCUSS.
Like politics, religion and The Great Pumpkin.
 
originally posted by Marc D:
You two are re living historyDidn't Callahan and Stuart have a similar conversation about Overnoy Poulsard many moons ago?

I'm sure the page was Albanized, but something along the lines of a sweaty shepherdess exploding vs Overnoy being a swell guy and making authentic wine... blah, blah etc.

And you are getting the '07 already, huh. I just tried the 2006 which was very clean and not sweaty or dirty at all.

The dispute was over the 1993. It had quite a stench but was loved by Callahan and Connell. I had mixed feelings about the wine. It suffered from insane over-reduction and no doubt has lively yeasts and bacteria.

None of the vintages we brought in since than have had that problem.
 
originally posted by Joe Dressner:
originally posted by Marc D:
You two are re living historyDidn't Callahan and Stuart have a similar conversation about Overnoy Poulsard many moons ago?

I'm sure the page was Albanized, but something along the lines of a sweaty shepherdess exploding vs Overnoy being a swell guy and making authentic wine... blah, blah etc.

And you are getting the '07 already, huh. I just tried the 2006 which was very clean and not sweaty or dirty at all.

The dispute was over the 1993. It had quite a stench but was loved by Callahan and Connell. I had mixed feelings about the wine. It suffered from insane over-reduction and no doubt has lively yeasts and bacteria.

None of the vintages we brought in since than have had that problem.

It was I who brought the said 1993 to a jeebus (then termed off-line) with the above mentioned dog hind parts (Yaniger).

Both dog hind parts and doghead are adrift in the world, yet I remain.

I consumed a decent number of bottles of said wine and, with enough air, enjoyed most of them.
 
originally posted by VLM:

Both dog hind parts and doghead are adrift in the world, yet I remain.

Is Montana adrift? Who knew?

I consumed a decent number of bottles of said wine and, with enough air, enjoyed most of them.

Don't call my wine "said!"

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Didn't Callahan and Stuart have a similar conversation about Overnoy Poulsard many moons ago?

Yes, and "conversation" is being kind. This is a perilously polarizing wine. Perhaps it ought to come with a warning sticker: DRINK, BUT DO NOT DISCUSS.

I thought that this whole thread was part of the "RTN" movement.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Chris Coad: badgers
I like the Amanita muscaria rif.
Though they don't explore the full spiritual implications of that fungus.

1 -mushroom (psychotropic food for thought) + 2 -tree fungus (fire starter) + 3 -birch (fuel), all growing in symbiotic proximity = beginnings of religion! all you need is a little roasted reindeer to complete the picture..and lo and behold here comes one now!

things weren't so bad in Siberia 4000 years ago after all...(except for the pee drinking part, amanita muscaria sounds like a great trip...)

btw, not all species of amanita are created equal - "This genus is responsible for approximately 95% of the fatalities resulting from mushroom poisoning, with the death cap accounting for about 50% on its own."
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:

btw, not all species of amanita are created equal - "This genus is responsible for approximately 95% of the fatalities resulting from mushroom poisoning, with the death cap accounting for about 50% on its own."

Yes, A. phalloides is nothing to play around with. Even A. muscaria can be pretty nasty to the unwary. I figger that those ancient Siberians were fairly desperate suckers to use fly agaric for their kicks. Heck, the past 2 weeks of subzero temperatures have been enough to get me drinking my own urine were it not for the hundreds of wine bottles sitting directly beneath me.

Mark Lipton
 
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