TN: Oh is for Ox (Selosse, Jamet, Drouhin, Huet, Etc.)

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originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by VLM:
So which disgorgement dates identify "on" bottles?

Ha ha.

Do you suffer from the disease where anyone who disagrees with your assessment of a wine must have had off bottles?

No. I recognize "off" bottles, myself (esp. of wines I usually love), and if someone doesn't like a wine I like, I scratch my head. Then I send them hate mail.

OK, so what is an "on" bottle from a producer from whom bottle variation is the norm. The establishment of norms and standards in such a case are extremely difficult.

Actually, you and I disagree about wines where I think all of the bottles have a flaw that I can't really live with (e.g. your beau, Herve).

It's not a flaw, it's a choice.

Some people don't like blue in their paintings, either.

Well, in a sense it is a choice, in the cave. But several of the wines are objectively flawed.

Now we can disagree on Rateau. You love the wines, I found them pretty mediocre. That is a disagreement. You like Damien Hirst, I think he's a pretender.
 
originally posted by Charles Weiss:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
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"Cette bouteille a t dgorge le..."

=

"This bottle was disgorged on..."

...my birthday!
Must have been one of the good ones.
[presumably not the actual year of my birthday]
charles

Charles, I didn't know you had the same birthday as my daughters! Most certainly not the same year...

-Michael
 
originally posted by Michael Malinoski:

Charles, I didn't know you had the same birthday as my daughters! Most certainly not the same year...

-Michael

And there's little hope that we'll even reach the point that their ages ADD UP to mine.
Charles
 
originally posted by VLM:
OK, so what is an "on" bottle from a producer from whom bottle variation is the norm. The establishment of norms and standards in such a case are extremely difficult.

Well, I think we're assuming that bottle variation happens but not to such an extent that there can be no sense of a norm. I mean, say 20% of vigneron X's wines are "off." Can't we say that the other 80% is how the wine is "supposed" to taste?

Actually, you and I disagree about wines where I think all of the bottles have a flaw that I can't really live with (e.g. your beau, Herve).

It's not a flaw, it's a choice.

Some people don't like blue in their paintings, either.
Well, in a sense it is a choice, in the cave. But several of the wines are objectively flawed.

Which?

Now we can disagree on Rateau. You love the wines, I found them pretty mediocre. That is a disagreement. You like Damien Hirst, I think he's a pretender.

That's not true. I don't love the wines. In fact, I thought we agreed on them entirely.

As for Damien Hirst, the jury's hanging.
 
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