Chablis Depression

I was under the impression that recent vintages have a much lower chance of premox.
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For that to be true, we would either have to be absolutely sure of the cause of premox, or have arrived at the solution by random chance. Since the first case is not even close to having been met (that is, someone may well have arrived at the solution, but there's certainly as yet no consensus that any given solution is more than a hypothesis), we're left with the second. At $10/per, I might take my chances. At $70? No thanks.
 
originally posted by Bwood:

I do buy some petit chablis and villages chablis off wine lists. And still have a few bottles of Raveneau in the cave. Otherwise, Chablis is off my radar.
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I've never seen the attraction to Petit Chablis, actually. It's never seemed to me to bear any of the typical characteristics that make Chablis so attractive to me: stony minerality, lemony fruit, taut acidity and the potential to round out with time and take on a fatter profile. In fact, the only wine outside of Chablis AOC to do that, in my experience, is Muscadet. An older Briords or L d'Or bears a startling resemblance to me to aged Chablis (the minerality and taut acidity go without saying, of course, though we might swap limes for lemons), hence my attraction to Muscadet in recent years.

Mark Lipton
 
Mark, lighten up and buy some Rosette 2007 from De Moor. Put it away for as long as you can, worry not about 'premox'. You will be really happy.

Regarding La Chablisienne, I can testify, they work every bit as well as the Cave de Lugny in the Maconnais.
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Bwood:

I do buy some petit chablis and villages chablis off wine lists. And still have a few bottles of Raveneau in the cave. Otherwise, Chablis is off my radar.
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I've never seen the attraction to Petit Chablis, actually.
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It's cheap and on some wine lists. And sometimes found in refrigerators of convenience stores located in French protectorates. We are talking basic survival skills here, not about wines I'd buy to drink at home instead of Luneau Papin or Pepiere.
 
I probably drink more Long-Depaquit than any other Chablis producer because its distributor has difficulty selling it ("WTF is Moutonne? The only Grand Cru Moutonne is in Bordeaux, goddamnit!!) so it's closed for $10-20/btl a few months after it enters the market. The 96s are showing well, with no sign of premox in any of the bottles I've opened. Had a 2007 Brocard Valmur the other night that was beautiful (and under $50 at Wine Exchange). Olivier Savary (one of KLWM's "other" Chablis producers) is also a good go-to producer for good daily-drinker Chablis (although even at these relatively non-extortionate prices you'd have to be Gordon Getty or WR Hearst III to use these as "daily drinkers", what with the exchange rate and all).

-Eden (still drinking way more Muscadet than Chablis)
 
I really liked Christian Moreau's 2007s when tasted a couple of months ago, and I haven't been much of a fan of his wines in the past. Painfully intense like young Chablis should be. There's some wood, more at the higher levels, but I doubt it will be bothersome when the wines are ready to drink. No idea on pricing as I've still yet to see them offered locally.

Otherwise for me it's been many of the same already mentioned: Brocard, Dampt, Michel, De Moor. Picked up an '06 Servin on Schildnizzle's rec but haven't yet tried.

But more Pepiere, Jo Landron and Luneau-Papin than any of those guys.
 
Oh, has anyone mentioned De Moor? Opened an 05 Rosette several weeks ago - just starting to unfurl now and elegant on the second night. Remarkable wine and a match, at least, for any 1er cru. Don't know their track record with p'ox.
 
originally posted by MarkS:
Hey, i think you've just answered your own question. No time like the present to purchase mass quantities of Muscadet, Riesling, and Chenin.
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When one can get Granite de Clisson for less than $25, it makes hard to buy almost anything from Chablis. But I love Chablis and I do think that, with careful shopping, one can get some very nice bottles in that price range.
Best, Jim
 
we had the 05 collet chablis tonight..i found it rather soft......and as long as chablis/muscadet comparisons are being bandied about, the l'ecu guy bossard (which i had recently), at a few dollars less, is so much more of a wine.
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
we had the 05 collet chablis tonight..i found it rather soft......and as long as chablis/muscadet comparisons are being bandied about, the l'ecu guy bossard (which i had recently), at a few dollars less, is so much more of a wine.
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Which makes it so sad that his vines are up for sale.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
we had the 05 collet chablis tonight..i found it rather soft......and as long as chablis/muscadet comparisons are being bandied about, the l'ecu guy bossard (which i had recently), at a few dollars less, is so much more of a wine.
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Which makes it so sad that his vines are up for sale.
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And that 2007 and 2008 were so fucked.
 
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