TN: Some Chenin Blanc: Huet, Baumard, Closel, D'Epire, Petits Quarts

Brad Kane

Brad Kane
I've been fairly lax about taking notes, let alone posting them, but here are some Chenin Blancs I've tried at various dinners over the past eight or so weeks that I actually scrawled something about.

Cheers,

Brad

1971 Baumard- Quarts de Chaume
Thanks to a closeout sale on this stuff that I bought heavily into and got a bunch of friends to join in on me, Ive probably had this wine at least 14 times in the last two years and five times so far this year. It typically shows in the Solid B+ to Solid A- range depending on the bottle and this showing was a good one. Its sweetness is not what it was, though theres still enough to go around. This bottle shows quite a bit of marzipan with a hit of quince, mineral and shoe polish. Its also showing a tad younger and tighter than some recent bottles, though its time to start drinking these up as I dont see any improvement potential. No real rush, though. A-.

1971 Baumard- Quarts de Chaume
This one we had at Jays place with the 24 Huet and this bottle isnt showing as well as usual. It was a little less sweet than most other bottles and is showing its age more. Theres some burnt sugar, apricot, mineral and pineapple with a touch of bitterness on the finish. Solid B+.

1993 Baumard- Savennires Clos Papillon
Quite a nice showing for this one. This was pretty acidic on release, but time has mellowed it out nicely. Aging gracefully with quince, mineral, honey, yellow flowers and nuttiness on the nose and palate. Its precise, but also shows nice richness. Its fresher and younger with less oxidation than some 96s and 97s Ive had over the past few years, much to my chagrin. Drink or hold. A-/B+.

1924 Huet- Vouvray Moelleux, Le Haut-Lieu
From a topped off, re-corked bottle. Finally got to try this bottling thanks to Jay Miller who opened it at a fete at his place. I was a little worried at first as it initially showed a bit of petillance. Unfortunately, a number of older bottlings that have been topped off and put up for sale since the sale of the domaine 7-8 years ago have shown some petillance and secondary fermentation. Luckily, it blew off and the wine came together beautifully with air. Its a deep gold color with bergamot, shoe polish, mineral and a little more quince than apricot aromas. On the palate it definitely is mature, but theres still a nice bounce to its step. Sweet, but in the typical old Chenin sense and of course nicely balanced. Earl grey tea dominates with orange marmalade and a hint of quince. I hope Im in this good of shape at 85. A-.

1953 Huet- Vouvray Moelleux 1ere Trie, Le Mont
Typical aged Chenin nose, very earthy mineral, desiccated apricots, shoe polish and a touch of orange citrus. Its lost a lot of sweetness over the years, but the sweetness that remains is well balanced. Perhaps a little lacking in the mid-palate and fading a bit, but I thought it was fading when I first tried it thirteen years ago, yet here it is showing pretty much identically. Ive had slightly better bottles, though. A-/B+.

1957 Huet- Vouvray Demi-Sec, Clos du Bourg
From a release after the sale of the estate and topped off. Wow! This is showing beautifully and better than a bottle at the Huet Fete Part III. Developed, but it has that timeless Chenin freshness and vibrancy that seems to keep these wines immortal. It also is showing more youthfully than the 64 Moelleux that followed. Rich and complex with just a hint of sweetness, it shows mineral, shoe polish, quince and apricot flavors with a touch of oxidation. It actually wasnt that expressive on the nose, but if theres one lesson to be learned its that dont be afraid to give old Huet lots of air. These wines will only get better as the hours go by. Solid A-.

1964 Huet- Vouvray Moelleux, Le Mont
From an original bottle with an original cork. Some mustiness on the nose which is fairly typical of old Chenin. Indeed those not so familiar with Chenin Blanc mightve argued it was a defective bottle, but it was just Chenin being Chenin. Honeyed, but not all that sweet. Indeed it had a richer mouthfeel than the 57 demi-Sec, but was not all that much sweeter. Dessicated apricot, nuts and earl grey tea notes with a bit of bitterness on the finish. With air, however, the bitterness dissipated and the wine took on a beautiful marzipan character with a bit of orange marmalade. The mouthfeel also seemed to grow richer and more harmonious. Lovely wine and maybe a shade better showing than a bottle I opened in January in Paris. A-.

1989 Huet- Vouvray Moelleux 1ere Trie, Clos du Bourg
Stunning wine. Plenty to enjoy here, though its apparent that this wine is an infant and has decades of development ahead. Theres apricot, bergamot, botrytis/hay and honey notes. Its quite sweet, but that 89 acidic backbone more than compensates. Theres just such great depth, complexity and length here. I just picked a bunch of these up and its going to be a real pleasure to see how they develop over the years. Just a joyous wine. Low A+.

1989 Huet- Vouvray, Cuve Constance
Usually my favorite wine of all time, this bottle, alas, is a little lackluster. From a .375 ml and schlepped with me out to San Francisco recently, while still quite good, it showed a little older than from full bottles, with more of a nutty and marmalade edge to it. It also seemed a little shy, perhaps beaten up by the car rides to and from airports and being in the belly of a plane? It just didnt have the depth, length or vibrancy Ive come to expect from this wine. Quite sweet, but balanced. At least that stayed consistent. Still lovely, if not the bell ringer it usually is. A-.

2002 Huet- Vouvray Demi-Sec, Le Mont
I own a bunch of this amazing elixir and so do a lot of my friends, so there always seems to be one open. Ive had this wine three times in the last six weeks and Im surprised with how open its still showing as it should normally be pretty closed up by now. Intense, yet with a weightless quality, lightly sweet, yet perfectly balanced by vivacious acidity. Quince, mineral and green almonds dominate at this time. The only thing Ive noticed that may hint that its closing up is that its not as effusive on the nose as it was a few years ago and it does seem a little tighter on the palate. Just sublime stuff. Solid A.

1953 DEpir- Anjou
This was actually tasted in 11/08. I'm a little surprised that it's under the Anjou AOC as Savennires received AOC status in 1952. Perhaps the labels were already printed? In any case, I purchased this at auction in the fall as it I knew '53 was a good year in the Loire, the fill was terrific and I noticed there was some old D'Epir surfacing in the market in Europe. My oldest Savennires to date and it did not disappoint. A deep amber color with an aged Chenin nose full of wooliness, shoe polish, grilled apricots and nuts. On the palate this bottle was liquoreux in style and was still plenty sweet and showed plenty of structure. Faded fruit, worn wood, lanolin and shoe polish, though with air the lanolin and shoe polish receded and earl grey tea notes and a distinct orange creamsicle character that Coad and I always get from the Mark Angeli La Lune, came up. Very nice and gives me hope that the '49 I also picked up will be even better given the vintage. A-/B+.

1990 Closel- Savennires Cuve Speciale
Whoa Nelly! This is showing like gangbusters! Fully open, flamboyant and lively with loads of quince, sweet yellow citrus, Bartlett pears, mineral, nuts and honey flavors and aromas. Mouth filling and persistent across the palate. Theres some nice minerality here, though the wine is absolutely fruit driven. The wine really is as open and showy as Pamela Anderson in her peak years, but it shows better class and balance. Perhaps Sophia Loren? Really super stuff and Ive never had a 90 that showed this well. Solid A.

1989 Domaine des Petits Quarts- Bonnezeaux, Le Malabe (white label)
Suzanne Camhi brought this along to dinner for dessert knowing my love of Chenin and this producer and we paired it with the 71 Baumard QDC. Thank you Suzanne! Its a bit simpler and more obvious than the Baumard, but equally as good and with quite a different character. Its thicker and sweeter with a profile more of apricot, marmalade and butterscotch and finishes with a delicious cream and marzipan note. Lower acid than the QDC, but theres enough there to contain the sugar. Lovely. A-.
 
Thanks for the great notes. You get around.

I had a very similar experience with the 90 Closel - it is the best Savennieres I've had. One left!
 
Great notes; that's a lot of old Chenin!

That '57 Clos du Bourg demi-sec was a real beauty (and that '64 Le Mont Moelleux that followed it was pretty awesome as well) - strange as it may sound, those were my first experiences with any of Huet's wines and a really amazing introduction to older Vouvray. I definitely need to drink more Chenin Blanc.

Cheers,

Salil
 
Nice list of wines.

originally posted by Brad Kane: 1993 Baumard- Savennires Clos Papillon Its fresher and younger with less oxidation than some 96s and 97s Ive had over the past few years, much to my chagrin.

So you would prefer that this not show so fresh and young and that it would have more oxidation?
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
Nice list of wines.

originally posted by Brad Kane: 1993 Baumard- Savennires Clos Papillon Its fresher and younger with less oxidation than some 96s and 97s Ive had over the past few years, much to my chagrin.

So you would prefer that this not show so fresh and young and that it would have more oxidation?

The chagrin is over how the '96's and '97's are showing these. Fresh, good. Oxidized, bad.
 
Rahsaan, don't forget to factor in poor writing skills when interpreting others' notes! :)

so, brad, off topic - should I be buying the 07 demis?
 
I just saw some bottles on saturday of the 89 Huet Clos du Bourg at fortysomething euros on saturday on a shop, I see it's good stuff so I'll pick some.

I was at Vouvray some months ago, and I found the 07's demi-secs really nice. The producers I talked to (Pinon, Huet and Chidaine on the other side of the river) were quite happy with the vintage, back to nice acidity levels (compared to 06 much better wines for me), I had the feeling the wines will age well. I loved the demis from Pinon.
 
originally posted by Olaf Rdiger:
I just saw some bottles on saturday of the 89 Huet Clos du Bourg at fortysomething euros on saturday on a shop, I see it's good stuff so I'll pick some.

I was at Vouvray some months ago, and I found the 07's demi-secs really nice. The producers I talked to (Pinon, Huet and Chidaine on the other side of the river) were quite happy with the vintage, back to nice acidity levels (compared to 06 much better wines for me), I had the feeling the wines will age well. I loved the demis from Pinon.

Fair warning that an abnormally large percentage of '89 Huets are corked. But when they're good they're very good.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Fair warning that an abnormally large percentage of '89 Huets are corked..

What happened? Winery infection? Limited to only the 89 vintage?

More likely, a bad batch of corks and it does seem limited to '89.
 
originally posted by Olaf Rdiger:
Thanks for the advice, as it's from a shop, I'll keep the receipt and drink them soon then.

The problem is that the unaffected bottles would, of course, benefit from 20 years.
 
I wonder if I come in 20 years to the shop with the receipt and a corked bottle what would they do...

By the way, that reminds me a recent bad experience with a Le Mont 1ere trie 1996 I purchased directly at the cellar. When I opened it in Madrid... the wine wasn't the same I tasted at Huet's at all. It had a strong "lata de berberechos" (the dictionary says canned "cockle") smell and also the palate wasn't fine to me. Maybe poxed? I sent an e-mail to the cellar to see if they knew what it was... and didn't receive any answer (I wasn't pretending to get my money back, I was just curious). I don't know how to explain better the canned cockle smell, it was very clear and dominant, if you have tried those things it is an unmistakable smell. I have some more bottles, I hope they are all not the same.
PS. The wine was decanted for several hours, and that smell didn't go away.
 
Thirst-quenching notes.
Aren't you glad WA wasn't publishing (mis)information about top Vouvray estates back in the 50s?
Drink in three to five years my arse!
 
BTW - if anyone opens a bottle of the 1924 let it have some air. Started with a very offputting aroma that cleared up after 15-20 minutes or so.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
How many putts till it get to your pie-hole? Three? Four?

Jeff, I try for no more than 2 putts as a rule, but one-putting is my constant goal.

Mark Lipton
 
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