That mean man is at it again

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
"Yet the guru at Slanted Door, a restaurant I love by the way and whose German selections are magnificent, has ten French bubblies on the list and not one from CA."

French bubblies from CA have such tight allotments that he may not have been able to source proper amounts.
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I don't know the reason but in this economy tight allotments are not a worry for the sparklers we're talking about.
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I feel so misunderstood.
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I got it. Grammatical humor. HARUMPH.
 
Ah, so it's snobbish to sell wines you love and think will go well with your food. Got it.

BTW, a 1988 Piper Sonoma opened earlier this year was much better than it had any right to be.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Florida Jim:
Joe,
Doing the math here . . .
You answered my counter-point post 4 times, Mark not at all.
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I haven't observed Mark as eager to take a public stand on SD controversies, but you might send him an email and see what he says.
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Okay.
I thought he participated here but maybe I'm thinking Therapy.
Best, Jim
 
originally posted by Florida Jim:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Ah, so it's snobbish to sell wines you love and think will go well with your food. Got it.
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Hell Jay, its snobbish to even write that.
Best, Jim
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I know. Personally I think it's far more of a problem to think that every restaurant in a city is obligated to carry the wines that you think they should but that's obviously just more evidence against me.
 
Apparently, Charlie lurks here. He proposes the following wines:
-- gewurz from Navarro and Fogarty
-- riesling from Claiborne & Churchill, Poet's Leap, Pacific Rim
-- chenin from Blacksmith
-- viognier from Voss
-- sparkling wine from DVX, Roederer, Schramsberg

His tone is also really trenchant and unpleasant.
 
originally posted by Brad L i l j e q u i s t:
Is that Almendra in current release? Sounds like a neat wine.
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It's pretty grand. 10 years on the lees, which Sharon Bowman will tell you isn't much, but it makes a difference. I haven't seen it in the market in a while, and IIRC it was only on the west coast.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
BTW, a 1988 Piper Sonoma opened earlier this year was much better than it had any right to be.
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True, and you shouldn't neglect to mention that it fairly whipped that Loire bubbly chenin.
 
On a quick look:
-- The Voss and Fogarty are over 14% alcohol, which is probably tough with spicy Vietnamese-ish food.
-- I note that there is a Bonny Doon riesling on the SD list.
-- I could not get enough information on the sparklers to determine whether, as he claims, the stats really are comparable.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
BTW, a 1988 Piper Sonoma opened earlier this year was much better than it had any right to be.
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True, and you shouldn't neglect to mention that it fairly whipped that Loire bubbly chenin.
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Yes but that was only the Baumard Turquoise, a perfectly pleasant and enjoyable wine but not in the same league as the Foreau or Huet sparklers.
 
Try to order a Coke! Or some OJ from concentrate! Or anything that's "out of season"! These guys are the worst snobs on the planet.
 
Besides, anyone who eats - I mean - dines at SD is a snob. As the Chowhound populists will point out, there's better and far cheaper Vietnamese food all over the bay area. YMMV.
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
Besides, anyone who eats - I mean - dines at SD is a snob. As the Chowhound populists will point out, there's better and far cheaper Vietnamese food all over the bay area. YMMV.
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Do you know the waaay to San Ho-Seh??? Wah wah wah wah....
 
I'm not necessarily endorsing the opinion. Just saying that one person's snobbery is another's discernment. And vice versa. The mean guy is a snob - he looks down on lists that don't include the wines he likes.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
I've known Charlie a long time and mean is not an adjective that comes to mind at all. Passionate, yes. Good sense of humor, check. Opinionated, you betcha. But that describes most of us here.

I don't subscribe to his opinion with regard to the list at SD, as I think a restaurant has a right to do whatever they want with their list, but you need to understand that he's been championing California wines for thirty-five years in his Connoisseur's Guide to California wine. They are his passion, so his opinion on the matter really shouldn't come as a surprise.
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I'm in trouble, I agree with everything Brad said. Charlie is a good guy, doesn't mean we agree on everything.
 
originally posted by Scott Kraft:
The mean guy is a snob - he looks down on lists that don't include the wines he likes.
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Really, Scott? I don't think I've ever made a public comment about anyone else's wine list.
 
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