What's going on with Jobard and premox?

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There is an FAQ which is worth reading.

Sharon, to answer your question - I've had good, bad and indifferent bottles of Jobard. I buy and drink the wines because they often go on discount in my part of the world and find them useful as a prop to dinners once in a while. Enough acidity, some flavour, and easily recognisable as respectable wine from the label.

Unfortunately I am unable to divine your preferences from the Internet alone, so am of little help.
 
I think Sharon is perfectly capable of defending herself on this board, or I'm sure on any board. Some of you guys have come to her defense like the poor helpless damsel in distress.
I still appreciate Jobard but what the hell would I know living in Napa?
 
Is that oxidation or premature oxidation? It is on the one hand mildly surprising given the previous long-lived nature of the wines(I finished my Bourgogne Blanc 88 not long ago, still superb) and their austere nature, but I don't think it's true that all good white burgundy made it to 17 years old in the past-some bottles always failed, I think.
 
Sharon Bowman is a good person and I enjoy her company in person and in the off/on, 1 and 0 digital world.

I'm sorry to see flames break out because the truth is, it only drives people away.

I do regret the tendency to reduce the decades a vine tender has toiled in the soil to dismissal the length of a return key. I think they deserve better. I really do.
 
originally posted by Mark Davis:
2 recents...Opened a couple of '93s in recent months - Charmes and Poruzots. Both were showing substantial pre-ox.

-mark
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Try letting one sit for a few hours next time. Worked with Leroy Narvaux and Coche AC, both 93. I have no explanation for this, needless to say.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
2c worthI think Sharon is perfectly capable of defending herself on this board, or I'm sure on any board. Some of you guys have come to her defense like the poor helpless damsel in distress.
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Well, I yelled at her when she first came on the board so I owed her one.

And,, don't worry, Lou, we'll defend you, too, when your time comes.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
2c worthI think Sharon is perfectly capable of defending herself on this board, or I'm sure on any board. Some of you guys have come to her defense like the poor helpless damsel in distress.
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Well, I yelled at her when she first came on the board so I owed her one.

And,, don't worry, Lou, we'll defend you, too, when your time comes.
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and it seemed to me, for what that is worth, that people were defending the Board and its communication standards (mores?) above necessarily just defending Sharon.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
2c worthI think Sharon is perfectly capable of defending herself on this board, or I'm sure on any board. Some of you guys have come to her defense like the poor helpless damsel in distress.
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Your comment led to some interesting thoughts. First, variations on what Jeff and Kirk wrote occurred to me too. Depending on the situation, I might have sprung to your defense, even though you are perfectly capable of defending yourself (wouldn't it be sad if we only defended the helpless?). The reactions were as much against a break in decorum as they were against perceived injustice. Perhaps they were also a defense of "one of our own" against an "outside" attack.

If the impulse had been, as you say, to rescue a damsel in distress, why didnt it apply during Claude's earlier characterization of Sharon? Why did the first "attack" appear to be none of my business while the second appeared to be fair game?

My answers, and there must be many more: it was internal strife, not an attack from outside; Claude has built a store of goodwill with his knowledge, experience and comments, so he can afford to spend some of his credit; most vets here have been crossing keyboards since Wine-therapy, so what business is it of a relative newbies to butt in?

When titans like Levi and Thor butt heads, does everyone run for cover lest they get caught in the crossfire? I dont think so. People may not like seeing flames break out, but it's like these two and others have earned the right to fight. Sounds weird, but I think it's true. But if you come out of nowhere, without having accumulated any rights through constructive contribution, you have no business criticizing those who have. It's not a level playing field.
 
Sounds weird, but I think it's true. But if you come out of nowhere, without having accumulated any rights through constructive contribution, you have no business criticizing those who have. It's not a level playing field.
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Without even getting so 'deep', it seems like a basic rule of communication. You can say things to friends/family/acquaintances that you wouldn't say to strangers.

That said, things probably escalated too far here.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
2c worthI think Sharon is perfectly capable of defending herself on this board, or I'm sure on any board. Some of you guys have come to her defense like the poor helpless damsel in distress.
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Well, I yelled at her when she first came on the board so I owed her one.

And,, don't worry, Lou, we'll defend you, too, when your time comes.
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Here comes the cavalry and Jeff Grossman to my rescue. I get goosebumps all over just thinking about it.
 
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