Who sez white wines don't age?!

MarkS

Mark Svereika
Been holding on to a Von Schubert, Maximin Grnhuser, Abtsberg, riesling-S, 1989 for what seems like 'forever', but I actually purchased this gem in the early 1990's. The cork was a mess, and after ripping it with two standard corkscrews, I brought out the ah-so and brought it out ever...so...carefully. What a dense cork! Completely soaked and saturated, like a roll of toilet paper that falls into the commode. No whiff of taint. We're good to GO!

The color is an attractive brassy golden yello. On the nose, there's a hint of nutshell and a lemon-petroleum compound. Little more going on in the mouth, with a lemon-green apple tartness, sour fruits with a floral note. the petroleum component is not as dominant here, turning to Vaseline. This is sweet, but has a drying finish, like that newly fallen autumn leaf that still has the breath of life but has a dry-rub feel to it already. This is a lovely whisper of a wine right now, 21 years old, the year most of us in the States can legally imbide. Drinking this as your first wine would be like going from day-care to college graduation in one sip. [AP: 3 536 014-20-90] 8.5% B+
 
Not I, sez moi.

Johanneshof Reinish poured a 1969 Zierfandler from the co-op at the Circo Vino tasting yesterday in Chicago and it was delish. As they age, some white wines start to taste similar to other old white wines. This one reminded me a lot of a 1959 Movia Ribola Gialla I had a few years ago.

-Eden (and most of them kinda start tasting like old Huet eventually)
 
recently had a dinner which included among others '70, '73 and '76 lopez de heredia tondonia blanco. still planning to post notes....
 
Oh, you're talking about German wine. Well, sure. I've got Germans from the '70s in the cellar still.

I thought you were talking about, maybe, Burgundy, like the 2005 Chablis I had last night which is already past its best.

This coming Sunday I'm going to a tasting with 10 German winemakers in attendance, and I'll buy their wine. I'm done buying white Burgundy.
 
originally posted by Chris Weber:
Oh, you're talking about German wine. Well, sure. I've got Germans from the '70s in the cellar still.

I thought you were talking about, maybe, Burgundy, like the 2005 Chablis I had last night which is already past its best.

This coming Sunday I'm going to a tasting with 10 German winemakers in attendance, and I'll buy their wine. I'm done buying white Burgundy.
The white Burgundies from the '70s are probably a better bet too.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Chris Weber:
Oh, you're talking about German wine. Well, sure. I've got Germans from the '70s in the cellar still.

I thought you were talking about, maybe, Burgundy, like the 2005 Chablis I had last night which is already past its best.

This coming Sunday I'm going to a tasting with 10 German winemakers in attendance, and I'll buy their wine. I'm done buying white Burgundy.
The white Burgundies from the '70s are probably a better bet too.

maybe I had better check in on one of my '69 Leroy Mersaults ...
 
originally posted by scottreiner:
recently had a dinner which included among others '70, '73 and '76 lopez de heredia tondonia blanco. still planning to post notes....

Over-rated.

Soul-less.

Yawn.

The mother of my twins is right.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by scottreiner:
recently had a dinner which included among others '70, '73 and '76 lopez de heredia tondonia blanco. still planning to post notes....

Over-rated.

Soul-less.

Yawn.

The mother of my twins is right.

This is just so amazingly rude.

Here is a guy expressing joy about something, and you are like what, cooler than that?

Seriously, it is a put down passing as sophistication. There is maybe nothing more stifling.

You are saying what, that Scott shouldn't have enjoyed the wines because you share no interest in them?

Rude.
 
Don't slander the monkey! He's like, y'know, been around forever.

VLM, you're welcome.

Lately I find that I want my German wines at three different stages:

1. Within first year from bottling
2. At adolescence, say 10-15 years
3. About 40-50 years; many from the 60s are drinking well now, and the 71s have only gotten creamier, amazingly.

Varies from vintage to vintage, and some don't make it to old bones, but they are magnificent when they do.
 
Can one slander the monkey? And if it is in writing on the internet, is it slander or libel?

And can the monkey be rude? Doesn't that presume that he might be able to act some other way?
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Yixin:
Don't slander the monkey!
....

It's hard to imagine that Nathan needs protection. Besides, Levi has a point.

He's like, y'know, been around forever.

Approaching the age of retirement?

It's well known that, thanks to open carry laws, VLM is never far from his protection... even at jeebi, I'm told. The way things are going here, pretty soon we'll have to bring in Rodney King as a motivational speaker.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
originally posted by Yixin:
Don't slander the monkey!
....

It's hard to imagine that Nathan needs protection.

Exactly. Isn't NC an 'open carry' state??

And Yixin, I *like* rieslings in their first year too, but - to my tastes - wiens made from this grape never really shut down, like a white Rhone or chenin-blanc based whites can be.
 
I wish I had your good fortune, Mark. I've wasted many a bottle at 3-8 years of age. The sugar (if they have any) makes them still palatable, but they are aromatically mute and of little interest. The dry ones even more so in my experience.
 
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