Kermit Lynch 4/10

I've actually stood three feet from Lyle without him knowing who I was. Then I left him a snarky note (this was when he was at CSW) and scooted. I feel bad. Well, OK, not that bad.
 
Thor,

I knew of you in Boston kind of. You used to come into the Wine Bottega but only talked to Peter. I was there for 1999-2000-and a little '01.

I remember that note. Framed above my wine cellar.
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
When I wear my New Balances I tower over Levi.
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Really?!? Levi has a good two inches on me. Funny Levi-ism, when I met him: 'You're taller than I thought you'd be' (or something like that).
 
I knew of you in Boston kind of. You used to come into the Wine Bottega but only talked to Peter. I was there for 1999-2000-and a little '01.
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Sure, but can you blame me? (emoticons, etc., fit in somewhere here-ish)

I remember that note. Framed above my wine cellar.
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Ah, good times.

in reality he can only be described as "towering"
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Cory, in reality I can only be described as "bloated."
 
originally posted by lars makie:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
When I wear my New Balances I tower over Levi.
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Really?!? Levi has a good two inches on me. Funny Levi-ism, when I met him: 'You're taller than I thought you'd be' (or something like that).
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I have a funny one too. "Lyle, you are much more of a douche bag in person." (exactly like that)
 
originally posted by Thor:
I knew of you in Boston kind of. You used to come into the Wine Bottega but only talked to Peter. I was there for 1999-2000-and a little '01.
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Sure, but can you blame me? (emoticons, etc., fit in somewhere here-ish)

No. I knew diddly back then and Peter was a mini wine celebrity.
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The post above the "No. I knew diddly back then and Peter was a mini wine celebrity." I wrote. Still learning the complexities of the interface.
 
originally posted by Nicolas Mestre:
The price is ludicrous.

The way this wine is regarded as the pinnacle of what the genre is capable of is ridiculous.

Plus, it doesn't strike me as an honest wine. In fact, none of the Tempiers were very compelling.

The white was a dead ringer for NZ sauvignon blanc.
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I disagree with Little VA about SO2, but I'm with him 100% on this.

Now Pradeaux rose is a different story, at 60% of the price. Reds are better too.
 
originally posted by lars makie:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
When I wear my New Balances I tower over Levi.
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Really?!? Levi has a good two inches on me. Funny Levi-ism, when I met him: 'You're taller than I thought you'd be' (or something like that).
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And Lyle introduced me to Levi.

Does everyone see where this is going?

Why anyone would be surprised with brett/reduction (it is sometimes hard to etll the difference) in Foillard/Thevenet/ etc. is beyond me. They have it. That's the price we pay for that type of wine because when it is on (like the two bottles we had Sunday) it's on. Ditto Tue-Boeuf, etc., etc..

Everyone just has to figure out the level of risk they are comfortable with.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Nicolas Mestre:
The price is ludicrous.

The way this wine is regarded as the pinnacle of what the genre is capable of is ridiculous.

Plus, it doesn't strike me as an honest wine. In fact, none of the Tempiers were very compelling.

The white was a dead ringer for NZ sauvignon blanc.
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I disagree with Little VA about SO2, but I'm with him 100% on this.

Now Pradeaux rose is a different story, at 60% of the price. Reds are better too.
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Pradeaux is where it's at these days.
 
I agree with the dude who called me an idiot . . .or was it Jesus? Anyway.....the only great Tempier I have had was some '86 Migoua and Tourtine. The Rose is pretty weak. Pradeaux is the best producer of Bandol, as I have had so few bad bottles. Actually none that I can remember. The Rose can age actually, it has that structure. It's cheap for what it is and what's amazing is you would expect a Rosenthal Bandol to be like $400 a case and it isn't. Even the Longue Garde is a value and the 1998 is outrageously good.

Claude,

It's been a while......will tell you soon if it's good to be back. Still sussing that one out.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by lars makie:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:
When I wear my New Balances I tower over Levi.
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Really?!? Levi has a good two inches on me. Funny Levi-ism, when I met him: 'You're taller than I thought you'd be' (or something like that).
Click to expand...

And Lyle introduced me to Levi.

Does everyone see where this is going?

Why anyone would be surprised with brett/reduction (it is sometimes hard to etll the difference) in Foillard/Thevenet/ etc. is beyond me. They have it. That's the price we pay for that type of wine because when it is on (like the two bottles we had Sunday) it's on. Ditto Tue-Boeuf, etc., etc..

Everyone just has to figure out the level of risk they are comfortable with.
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It's like a relationship. Allegedly when the good outweighs the bad then it is over. I believe that even the small amount of good, say 10%, if that's where you are at, can outweigh the 90% bad. The same way I look at these wines. Yes I hated the Foillard '08's. Big fucking deal. We know what goes on at Foillard and as VLM says there is a risk. A big one. But that little good I've had, I'd say around 15-20 percent, has convinced me that these wines are worth pursuing, and maybe that good will be back in 2009. Who knows, but I'll never throw the towel in.
 
originally posted by VLM: Why anyone would be surprised with brett/reduction (it is sometimes hard to etll the difference) in Foillard/Thevenet/ etc. is beyond me. They have it. That's the price we pay for that type of wine because when it is on (like the two bottles we had Sunday) it's on. Ditto Tue-Boeuf, etc., etc...
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Why don't you add Souhaut to that list?

Seems to fit in the same train of logic?
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass: I believe that even the small amount of good, say 10%, if that's where you are at, can outweigh the 90% bad...
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I think Foillard's success/cleanliness rate is much higher than 10%. I would even say 90%. But I probably don't open as many bottles as you do (assuming you still work in the wine business!?!?)
 
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