Cory Cartwright in the NY Times!

originally posted by Steve Edmunds:
Rockaday Johnnie!Tell your Ma
Tell your Pa
Our love's gonna grow
Oowah, oowah!!!

Steve,

Maybe you can tell me if Dylan is referring to anything specific there? or is he just freewheelin'? That might be my favorite early Dylan tune.

... lights a cigarette on a parking meter and walks on down the road...

Kevin
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Yixin:
I thought the recent LMHBs excellent, not that I can afford to buy any.

The 1995 is a stunner.

I wouldn't go that far. It's certainly lovely and I'd drink a full glass or two if opened, but I don't think it reaches the heights of say the '88, which ,of course is not the stunner that say '89 is. Now the '89, that's stunning. Nay, profound.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Yixin:
I thought the recent LMHBs excellent, not that I can afford to buy any.

The 1995 is a stunner.

I wouldn't go that far. It's certainly lovely and I'd drink a full glass or two if opened, but I don't think it reaches the heights of say the '88, which ,of course is not the stunner that say '89 is. Now the '89, that's stunning. Nay, profound.

I've actually followed the progess of the '89 over the course of the last 10 years, having checked in roughly about 20 times. And I disagree with what you have concluded here. I liked it much better several years ago. For me, neither the '89 Haut-Brion or the '89 La Mission Haut Brion are quite deserving of the accolades that they have received. In both cases I would prefer a vintage from the mid-90's ('96 HB, for instance) at this time, actually.

But then we have disagreed in the past about what consitutes a stunning wine, so perhaps this whole bit is not so surprising.

At the end of the day, the whole which-is-more-perfect-game is pretty pointless, though. Except that points are involved.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
But then we have disagreed in the past about what consitutes a stunning wine, so perhaps this whole bit is not so surprising.

Yep. No surprise. Fwiw, I consider the '89 LMHB one of, if not the best red wine I've ever had and while I've only had it ten times to your twenty, I think it's still quite young.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Yixin:
I thought the recent LMHBs excellent, not that I can afford to buy any.

The 1995 is a stunner.

I wouldn't go that far. It's certainly lovely and I'd drink a full glass or two if opened, but I don't think it reaches the heights of say the '88, which ,of course is not the stunner that say '89 is. Now the '89, that's stunning. Nay, profound.

I've actually followed the progess of the '89 over the course of the last 10 years, having checked in roughly about 20 times. And I disagree with what you have concluded here. I liked it much better several years ago. For me, neither the '89 Haut-Brion or the '89 La Mission Haut Brion are quite deserving of the accolades that they have received. In both cases I would prefer a vintage from the mid-90's ('96 HB, for instance) at this time, actually.

But then we have disagreed in the past about what consitutes a stunning wine, so perhaps this whole bit is not so surprising.

At the end of the day, the whole which-is-more-perfect-game is pretty pointless, though. Except that points are involved.

I had '89 Haut Brion at an Acker vertical in March 2007. I thought it was a brilliant wine with a balance and weightlessness I associate more with Burgundy. It seems a bit atypical for Haut-Brion as it is so seamless and not a stitch is out of place. I loved it of course, but the '96, '00, '02 and '86 were great too and maybe more classic Haut Brion. But what do i know? I am a hipster who hates on Bordeaux.
 
originally posted by Lyle Fass:

...but the '96, '00, '02 and '86 were great two and maybe more classic Haut Brion.

This gets at the situation, I think.

There is a lot of dark, big and broad fruit in those '89 HB and '89 LMHB cousins.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by Lyle Fass:

...but the '96, '00, '02 and '86 were great two and maybe more classic Haut Brion.

This gets at the situation, I think.

There is a lot of dark, big and broad fruit in those '89 HB and '89 LMHB cousins.

Worse. Way worse in '90. '90 Haut Brion is so ripe that I could not place it Haut Brion for a bit.
 
I, too, rue the dominance of merlot these days in Bordeaux. I grew up in a Bordeaux drinking household and get together with a group of Bordeaux lovers on occasion. That said, I seem to be drinking more Southern Rhones these days in terms of French wines though champagne is always in the cellar. I also drink Sauternes on a fairly regular basis so Bordeaux will continue to be stocked.
 
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