DRC Quiz

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Alice F.

Alice Feiring
Remember which vintage of Le Montrachet Aubert had to inoculate and was so displeased he sold the wine off in bulk? 1996?
 
It was 1992. I was unaware that it was sold off. Some years ago, I took Aubert de Villaine's response a question about the wine to be that all the bottles were still at the Domaine. But perhaps he was referring to only a limited number (not that there ever is anything more than a limited number made) that was kept at the Domaine with the rest being sold off.
 
Thanks Claude. That's it exactly. Aubert got back to me a few hours ago. He felt he couldn't sell it as Le Montrachet. I don't know its fate.
 
originally posted by Alice F.:
Thanks Claude. That's it exactly. Aubert got back to me a few hours ago. He felt he couldn't sell it as Le Montrachet. I don't know its fate.
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Oddly enough, an establishment in Italy thinks it good enough to sell as "Le Montrachet". (If wine-searcher.com is to be believed.) Probably just a typo--though 1992, 1993 and 1994 are all listed, chronoligically.

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originally posted by Tristan Welles:
originally posted by Alice F.:
Thanks Claude. That's it exactly. Aubert got back to me a few hours ago. He felt he couldn't sell it as Le Montrachet. I don't know its fate.
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Oddly enough, an establishment in Italy thinks it good enough to sell as "Le Montrachet". (If wine-searcher.com is to be believed.) Probably just a typo--though 1992, 1993 and 1994 are all listed, chronoligically.

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Never underestimate the power of fakers to trip up.
 
How did I just Know Claude would be the first to chime in and take the prize?!

I love this bored!
 
Too easy. Lets test Chris, I mean Claude, further. Which three grand cru vineyards is DRC blending into a single bottling, starting with the 2009 vintage?
 
Corton Bressandes, Clos du Roi, and Renardes, no? From the Florent de Merode deal.

I'm really curious to taste the result although I assume it'll be ridiculously expensive just on account of the novelty. I also have to wonder how much of the greatness of DRC's wines has to do with their clonal material, and whether they can bring the same magic touch to any other set of vines.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
can it still be labeled grand cru ? I imagine not.
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As it's all GC juice, I believe it can be labeled as "Corton" and as Crand Cru. Blending doesn't force declassification if it's all the same level. It does mean no further site designation on the label.
 
originally posted by Ned Hoey:
originally posted by .sasha:
can it still be labeled grand cru ? I imagine not.
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As it's all GC juice, I believe it can be labeled as "Corton" and as Crand Cru. Blending doesn't force declassification if it's all the same level. It does mean no further site designation on the label.
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So if they blended La Tache and RC, it would be labeled Vosne Grand Cru ?
 
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by Ned Hoey:
originally posted by .sasha:
can it still be labeled grand cru ? I imagine not.
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As it's all GC juice, I believe it can be labeled as "Corton" and as Crand Cru. Blending doesn't force declassification if it's all the same level. It does mean no further site designation on the label.
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So if they blended La Tache and RC, it would be labeled Vosne Grand Cru ?
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No, it would be Vosne 1er Cru, as in the Cuve Duvault-Blochet that DRC already makes from declassification of its grand crus. But Corton is considered all one appellation, and the Bressandes, Clos-du-Roi, etc. are just the names of lieu-dits. As a result, you can have Corton-Bressandes and Corton-Clos du Roi mixed and call it Corton, or you can even have pure Corton-Bressandes and call it merely Corton, if you want. To further add to the confusion, Le Corton is a lieu dit, so Corton is not (necessarily) the same as Le Corton.

Another oddity of declassification (and there are many) is that red Musigny can be declassified to Chambolle 1er Cru (or Chambolle or Bourgogne), but since Chambolle is an appellation for red wines only, Musigny blanc has to be declassified to Bourgogne blanc.
 
Thanks! On the contrary, this all makes perfect sense. I forgot about how Corton was orgainized. I suppose if they ever get their act together and name Clos Vougeot parcels ( as I think they should ), the same rules would apply.
 
originally posted by .sasha:
Thanks! On the contrary, this all makes perfect sense. I forgot about how Corton was orgainized. I suppose if they ever get their act together and name Clos Vougeot parcels ( as I think they should ), the same rules would apply.
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There are Cos-Vougeot lieux-dits that a few producers use -- e.g., Anne Gros has le Grand Maupertuis on her label, Gros F&S have le Musigni on theirs.
 
I forgot that the GCs are AOCs.

Doesn't DRC own some premier cru plots that can be included the Cuve Duvault-Blochet or be sold off?

Is anybody labeling with lieu-dits in Romanee Saint Vivant or Grand Echezeaux/Echezeaux these days?
 
originally posted by Ned Hoey:
I forgot that the GCs are AOCs.

Doesn't DRC own some premier cru plots that can be included the Cuve Duvault-Blochet or be sold off?

Is anybody labeling with lieu-dits in Romanee Saint Vivant or Grand Echezeaux/Echezeaux these days?
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The DRC premiers crus are generally sold off.

Louis Latour labels its RSV "Les Quatre Journaux."

Anne Gros puts a lieu-dit name on her Echzeaux (Les Loachausses) and I believe that there are a few others that do, although they don't immediately come to mind. Many/most Echzeaux producers have holdings in more than one lieu-dit, precluding putting a name on the label.
 
Tardy's Echezeaux is Echezeaux Le Treux.
Jayer-Gilles' is Echezeaux-du-Dessus.
Meo Camuzet's is Echezeaux Les Rouges du Bas.
There are definitely others but I can't think of them offhand.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Chandon de Briaille has Corton Blanc GC which is a blend of three parcels (Bressandes, Marechaudes, and one other).
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Are you sure of this, Jeff? I seem to recall that it was all from Bresssandes, last I asked, but it certainly is possible that they planted more since then.
 
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