2007 Clos Roche Blanche Gamay

originally posted by Jay Miller:I'm leery of the 2002 Muller Catoirs as that was the year they went through what seemed like a dozen wine makers after losing Hans Gunter Schwarz.
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Yeah, I recall. On the strength of Schildknecht's reviews, I bought a few some years ago at steep discount. I think I will leave them alone for another year or two. Or maybe I'll open an Eselhaut Kabinett over the holiday.

Thanks.

Ian
 
Well, I cracked a bottle of the 2004 Cot/Malbec today. Grapey, rich, loamy and way too young. Very impressive but I'm not touching another bottle for at least 3-5 years.
 
originally posted by Joel Stewart:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Joel,
You are drinking somewhat different wines than we are. Didier bottles with no SO2 for Japan, but adds a bit at bottling for the US. So there is a no-SO2 character, on top of anything else that has happened.

To me, the wines do indeed show a consistency across cepage, but it's a crunchy limestone minerality that I find very appealing. I can see finding the '06 gamay a little big and perhaps alcoholic, but when you don't like the '04 SB, I think we're having different experiences.

ETA: Didier prefers to add a little SO2.
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The SO2-free '06 version tasted in Mareuil-Sur-Cher last year was actually a little dull to my taste, the regular version very exciting.

But I thought Japan was getting both bottlings. Perhaps not, need to check.
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please check...i do wanna see what all the hoopla is about
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I'm a bit lost at sea here not knowing the wines in question. Well, I know the wines very well - just not the vintages, since the local importer is a schlimazel. But two qualities I have never encountered with any of the wines from Clos Roche Blanche are hoopla and brett. Never, neither, in even the minutest quantity.
 
brett or not, or something else (no certified claims were made...just empirical guesses)...the point being the CRB's shipped here (Japan) have no S02, while the US bottlings do, which could lead to a different wine being experienced. also, i don't know if S02 exacerbates or inhibits hoopla, but i can live with that uncertainty.
 
It was an exciting evening tonight, as Trinka referred to the wine we were drinking as "CRB." Next thing you know she'll be talking about opening a PdA.

This particular bottle (2007 Gamay) was short on bottle variation but long on goodness.
 
It's ok. Are we not all seduced by caricatures before moving on to more idyllic pastures?

Perhaps Jay would find this wine 'just a touch' over-ripe if tasted now. Who's to know?
 
Nope, I've had this wine many times and it's totally avoided the 1990 problems. In fact I'll go further, I'll say that no more than 75% of the 1990s I've had have displayed those problems. Are you, perchance, claiming that a vintage generalization applies to all wines in the vintage?

Now that Joe and Joe have made up we need a new feud (he said rubbing his hands together maniacally).

The 1990 Drouhin Amoureuses on the other hand showed some disappointing signs of stewiness on the finish the one time I had it though only after it had been open for an hour or two.

And Jeff - you weren't there although you've been present on any number of occasions where I've had it.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Hey, who put the real cork in my 2007 Clos Roche Blanche Cabernet?
Really good wine as usual.
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It's a simple enough procedure to remove the bark stopper, dose with plastic wrap, and recork with a suitable fake cork. I've got a few I can spare if you need to borrow them.

You do own a glovebox, right?
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
Hey, who put the real cork in my 2007 Clos Roche Blanche Cabernet?
Really good wine as usual.
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It's a simple enough procedure to remove the bark stopper, dose with plastic wrap, and recork with a suitable fake cork. I've got a few I can spare if you need to borrow them.

You do own a glovebox, right?
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Hey, who needs a glovebox? Just use a glovebag or, lacking that, a XXL latex vinyl glove and some nitrogen gas. Those living close to Times Square might be able to substitute other, less savory rubber items.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
In fact I'll go further, I'll say that no more than 75% of the 1990s I've had have displayed those problems. Are you, perchance, claiming that a vintage generalization applies to all wines in the vintage?
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What the hell Jay said.

Despite the fact that even the '90 D'Angervilles were stewed, I've had some lovely '90s.

Just not very many.

In fact, I'd say that '91 is a far more consistent vintage. Those who've tasted the '90 La Tache say that the heights in '90 are higher, but I can't attest to that.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
2007 was remarkable for the consistent rain throughout the summer. "Our best mildew harvest ever" was Catherine's report at CRB.
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I thought I read somewhere that the CRB Gamay was harvested at an extremely low yield, which could explain good quality in an ickily wet year.

We finally procured a 2007 CRB Gamay and opened it on Saturday. This was my first wine after a 30-day fast, and it went quickly, without notes, leaving a rather blurry impression. But I remember clean fruit, earth, stoniness, good vigor and surprising spice. We liked it, but it was a bit too earthy and pubescent to hit my sweet spot dead on.

What does the passage of time do for this wine? I'll try another bottle soon and see if we can drag it out for a day or two.

By the way, thanks again to Jay et. al. for the detailed Drouhin commentary earlier.
 
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