I still love natural wine

originally posted by Yixin:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
What it sounds like when doves cryI beg you both, please put down the heavy weaponry and back away from the brink. You're scarying the kids.

And Asian pacifists.

Where can I buy one of those?
 
I just had the Andrea Calek Blonde last weekend at Heart in SF and thought it was awesome. So Chardonnay and Viognier, huh? The waitress initially told me it was menu pineau and romorantin and it totally made sense to me, when she came back with the correct information I was almost more confused. What region is Calek working in?
 
Calek BlondeI just had the Andrea Calek Blonde last weekend at Heart in SF and thought it was awesome. So Chardonnay and Viognier, huh? The waitress initially told me it was menu pineau and romorantin and it totally made sense to me, when she came back with the correct information I was almost more confused. What region is Calek working in?

Ahhh, fucking terroirs,

After all chardonnay and viognier are not that far from menu pineau and romorantin. And one can easily go from Ardche to Loire by bicycle.

Though I find a blonde from romoratin and menu pineau much more sexy than from chardonnay and viognier.
OTOH Ardche is sooooo trendy these days, while Loire begins to fade.

Maybe romoratin and menu pineau from Ardche could be the Holy Grail.
From carbonic of course...

Carbonic is such a treat!

I had a 2008 Moinette not long ago. I could have swear it was from arbane from Chavot made in a Crete amphora with a 27 months maceration.
Believe me or not it was not.
 
I've never read Lem. I think I will correct that unless reading him in translation is no good. Damn my parochial American ways.
Lem is one of the greats, not only of science fiction, but 20th century fiction in general. I blame George Lucas for the fact that he isn't read more.

How are the English translations of Lem? I've only read Solaris in Finnish and very much enjoyed it. Unfortunately his other translations are rare and expensive (so even though I work in the second hand book trade, I haven't seen them...) Though not generally a huge scifi fan, I really liked Solaris and have been meaning to get back to them.
 
originally posted by Otto Nieminen:
I've never read Lem. I think I will correct that unless reading him in translation is no good. Damn my parochial American ways.
Lem is one of the greats, not only of science fiction, but 20th century fiction in general. I blame George Lucas for the fact that he isn't read more.

How are the English translations of Lem? I've only read Solaris in Finnish and very much enjoyed it. Unfortunately his other translations are rare and expensive (so even though I work in the second hand book trade, I haven't seen them...) Though not generally a huge scifi fan, I really liked Solaris and have been meaning to get back to them.

anyone have any opinions on ringworld by niven. really more philosophy than sci-fi. i'm a huge fan...
 
originally posted by Brzme:
Calek BlondeI just had the Andrea Calek Blonde last weekend at Heart in SF and thought it was awesome. So Chardonnay and Viognier, huh? The waitress initially told me it was menu pineau and romorantin and it totally made sense to me, when she came back with the correct information I was almost more confused. What region is Calek working in?

Ahhh, fucking terroirs,

After all chardonnay and viognier are not that far from menu pineau and romorantin. And one can easily go from Ardche to Loire by bicycle.

Though I find a blonde from romoratin and menu pineau much more sexy than from chardonnay and viognier.
OTOH Ardche is sooooo trendy these days, while Loire begins to fade.

Maybe romoratin and menu pineau from Ardche could be the Holy Grail.
From carbonic of course...

Carbonic is such a treat!

I had a 2008 Moinette not long ago. I could have swear it was from arbane from Chavot made in a Crete amphora with a 27 months maceration.
Believe me or not it was not.

Whether I agree with you or not, this is some excellent satire, I must say.
 
originally posted by Otto Nieminen:
I've never read Lem. I think I will correct that unless reading him in translation is no good. Damn my parochial American ways.
Lem is one of the greats, not only of science fiction, but 20th century fiction in general. I blame George Lucas for the fact that he isn't read more.

How are the English translations of Lem? I've only read Solaris in Finnish and very much enjoyed it. Unfortunately his other translations are rare and expensive (so even though I work in the second hand book trade, I haven't seen them...) Though not generally a huge scifi fan, I really liked Solaris and have been meaning to get back to them.
Unfortunately poor for the most part, but still a joy to read.
 
originally posted by scottreiner:

anyone have any opinions on ringworld by niven. really more philosophy than sci-fi. i'm a huge fan...

Larry Niven always struck more as a thinker than a writer, which is to say that most of his books trot out some intriguing ideas couched in fairly sloppy writing (wooden characters, simple plot lines, workmanlike prose). By the standards of genre fiction, most especially SF, he was a better-than-average writer who rarely indulged in the adolescent wish fulfillment that plagues the genre. I much preferred the short stories collected in "All the Myriad Ways" than any of his novels as they allowed him to explore those ideas without having to construct the elaborate edifice of a novel.

On Ringworld specifically: the idea for the world was a cool one, and he explores it fairly well, but the main characters (Louis Wu, Teela Brown, Nessus, Speaker) are fairly two dimensional and broadly painted. His characters and the plot always seem to be in service of his central conceit. On the plus side, the book reads fast and you get to learn about how you can generate a stationary eye in the sky on a ringworld, which was way cool to me.

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by scottreiner:

anyone have any opinions on ringworld by niven. really more philosophy than sci-fi. i'm a huge fan...

His characters and the plot always seem to be in service of his central conceit.

Mark Lipton

agreed, that's why i always enjoyed the philosophical aspect, as opposed to the sf... especially the discussion (never overtly mentioned in the book, as i remember it, but always alluded to) of the nature of gods and or divinity.
 
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