I'm sure they must shut down in some fashion, I've just never had them at that stage. Usually, they're kinda outrageous in one way or another. But to get to dullness, I'd wonder if there wasn't some sort of damage. Was there eucalyptus or anything in its neighborhood? That's usually hard to shed, but if the wine did...
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Nice new Chelsea wine store+bonus tasting notes
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Jay Miller
Jay Miller
originally posted by Thor:
I'm sure they must shut down in some fashion, I've just never had them at that stage. Usually, they're kinda outrageous in one way or another. But to get to dullness, I'd wonder if there wasn't some sort of damage. Was there eucalyptus or anything in its neighborhood? That's usually hard to shed, but if the wine did...Yeah, sure surprised me. I'm guessing shut down but i don't have enough experience to tell.Probably the first time that's ever been said about a Wendouree.dull
I'm remembering mostly sour cherry notes. Joe noted some pruney elements to the nose. I don't really recall eucalyptus.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by SFJoe:
clickoriginally posted by Marc D:
I think it is pretty cool that you can walk into a store and buy a 1995 Cuvee Renaissance. Please post your impressions when you drink it. I'm out of the 1996, and would gladly pay the shipping if the '95 is anywhere close to that one.
A friend brought me a bottle of the '95 a few weeks ago and, as luck would have it, I opened it with dinner last night. I have not had a Cuvee Renaissance before, so am not able to compare it to the '96 (or any other vintage), but I was not moved by this bottle. Pleasant enough but not much of anything special. None of the lift and drive I've had in the few other romorantins of my acquaintance.* And the semi-sweetness wasn't really balanced against minerality or acidity.
* This may not be fair b/c the only one I've had lately is the "Provignage" from Marionnet; but that wine is kick-ass good and fun.
As long as you get to it before the cheap-ass corks and the premox kill it, that is. DYA.originally posted by kirk wallace:
* This may not be fair b/c the only one I've had lately is the "Provignage" from Marionnet; but that wine is kick-ass good and fun.
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Rhys was gone by tonight. There was a cork as proof.
Mayacamas SB was still quite nice despite an impressive 14.5 on the label. Softer and in much lower registers than any SB I am used to on the nose, but clear and cuddly, with plenty of persistence and zest in the finish.
Knoll was a mess. Fairly advanced and rich fruit, with powerful acidity (not the shrill acidity of a has-been but vivid, ripe acids of a young wine) in the finish.
Wendouree just sat in the glass and pretended you were not there.
Mayacamas SB was still quite nice despite an impressive 14.5 on the label. Softer and in much lower registers than any SB I am used to on the nose, but clear and cuddly, with plenty of persistence and zest in the finish.
Knoll was a mess. Fairly advanced and rich fruit, with powerful acidity (not the shrill acidity of a has-been but vivid, ripe acids of a young wine) in the finish.
Wendouree just sat in the glass and pretended you were not there.
Scott Kraft
Scott Kraft
Wow Cazin got expensive! I'm pretty sure we were paying just over $20 for the '96 CR when it was released. Well, except for Cowan who paid about $4.23 delivered.
originally posted by kirk wallace:
A friend brought me a bottle of the '95 a few weeks ago and, as luck would have it, I opened it with dinner last night. I have not had a Cuvee Renaissance before, so am not able to compare it to the '96 (or any other vintage), but I was not moved by this bottle. Pleasant enough but not much of anything special. None of the lift and drive I've had in the few other romorantins of my acquaintance.* And the semi-sweetness wasn't really balanced against minerality or acidity.
* This may not be fair b/c the only one I've had lately is the "Provignage" from Marionnet; but that wine is kick-ass good and fun.
Thanks, Kirk.
I hope you do get the chance to try the '96 Cuvee Renaissance, it has plenty of taut acidic lift to balance the residual sugar. Tension, yet beautifully balanced, like a great Riesling in some ways.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
Thanks, Kirk.
I hope you do get the chance to try the '96 Cuvee Renaissance, it has plenty of taut acidic lift to balance the residual sugar. Tension, yet beautifully balanced, like a great Riesling in some ways.
Thanks, Marc. I'll keep an eye out for it.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by SFJoe:
Kirk, if you remind me, I still have a few '96s.
deal!
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originally posted by Salil Benegal:
01 Brucke was pretty awesome as well - opened a couple of bottles of that in the last few months, and right now it's quite wonderful.
drinking this right now this is like boning your neighbor's 13 year old daughter. which is to say, i understand why you might want to, but really -- show some restraint and decency, and at least wait til she's old enough to go to college.
fb. (it's a lovely day in the neighborhood)
originally posted by fatboy:
drinking this right now this is like boning your neighbor's 13 year old daughter. which is to say, i understand why you might want to, but really -- show some restraint and decency, and at least wait til she's old enough to go to college.
fb. (it's a lovely day in the neighborhood)
So far we have discovered that fb's neighbor has a shitting dog and a (presumably attractive) 13 year old daughter.
What more delights can we expect from this land of residential metaphor?
Keith Levenberg
Keith Levenberg
Boy, that makes me a real sicko - I liked it better a few years ago.originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by Salil Benegal:
01 Brucke was pretty awesome as well - opened a couple of bottles of that in the last few months, and right now it's quite wonderful.
drinking this right now this is like boning your neighbor's 13 year old daughter. which is to say, i understand why you might want to, but really -- show some restraint and decency, and at least wait til she's old enough to go to college.
fb. (it's a lovely day in the neighborhood)
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No different from ageing Cru Beaujolais, there is no right and wrong, you either like the flavours or you don't. I typically do not, but the exceptions are well worth the search.
You and Eric are welcome not to like older flavours in Donnhoff. Now, if you told me you did not like a Gruenhauser circa 1993, then I'd recommend a good doctor.
You and Eric are welcome not to like older flavours in Donnhoff. Now, if you told me you did not like a Gruenhauser circa 1993, then I'd recommend a good doctor.
Keith Levenberg
Keith Levenberg
What did Eric say about older Donnhoff?
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the greatest line ever about Donnhoff was delivered by an anonymous source (but one highly respected on WD): "volcanic swill"
originally posted by .sasha:
No different from ageing Cru Beaujolais, there is no right and wrong, you either like the flavours or you don't. I typically do not, but the exceptions are well worth the search.
I used to agree, when I paid $20-25 for Bruke. Not at $50.
You and Eric are welcome not to like older flavours in Donnhoff. Now, if you told me you did not like a Gruenhauser circa 1993, then I'd recommend a good doctor.
No, those are great. Haag and Prum too.