06-07 Baroli

I am positive about 2006 Oddero. 2007 Burlotto were for me, with Brovia, some of the real stars of 2007. The samples of 2007 F. Rinaldi shown at Nebbiolo Prima were awful, and I suspect some kind of heat damage was to blame.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I am positive about 2006 Oddero. 2007 Burlotto were for me, with Brovia, some of the real stars of 2007. The samples of 2007 F. Rinaldi shown at Nebbiolo Prima were awful, and I suspect some kind of heat damage was to blame.
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Levi did you ever write more extensively on your impressions from that Piemonte trip? Other highlights, good or bad?
 
originally posted by Cristian Dezso:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
I am positive about 2006 Oddero. 2007 Burlotto were for me, with Brovia, some of the real stars of 2007. The samples of 2007 F. Rinaldi shown at Nebbiolo Prima were awful, and I suspect some kind of heat damage was to blame.
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Levi did you ever write more extensively on your impressions from that Piemonte trip? Other highlights, good or bad?
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Sure.

Giuseppe Rinaldi:

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Lorenzo Accomasso:

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Giuseppe Mascarello:

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Poderi Oddero:

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Bartolo Mascarello:

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Brovia:

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And there are some other pieces on the blog as well.
 
originally posted by Cristian Dezso:
Yes thanks for the reminder - I saw/read/loved these. I meant to say more on the wines you tried during that trip. Sorry.
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Of all vintages since 2002, 2007 was a vintage to skip, basically.
 
Wow, yet more fuel on the fire of controversy regarding 07s.

I am not skipping it completely. Still buying the 7-8 producers that I always do and I hope that I will not regret it in the future...
 
I'd love to hear more about the 07 Barolo controversy of which I haven't previously been aware.

I have had mixed feelings on 06. A few disastrously ripe, many straight up good wines (Produttori Torre, Vietti Castiglione, A Conterno Soprana), some very ripe but still tremendous wines that I think will shed some baby fat and gain more classical proportions (Brovia, F Rinaldi) and some true stunners (G Rinaldi Brunate, G Mascarello Monprivato, A Conterno Romirasco are mindblowers for me). I've not yet had Cavallotto from bottle or Cappellano at all and am anxious to.

I've had almost no 07's - a couple Barbaresco that were perfectly fine and in line with producer expectations. I have a Marcarini Brunate in the queue. I am very curious to hear more about the vintage from people who are tasting the bottled wines.
 
originally posted by Josh Beck:
I'd love to hear more about the 07 Barolo controversy of which I haven't previously been aware.

I have had mixed feelings on 06. A few disastrously ripe, many straight up good wines (Produttori Torre, Vietti Castiglione, A Conterno Soprana), some very ripe but still tremendous wines that I think will shed some baby fat and gain more classical proportions (Brovia, F Rinaldi) and some true stunners (G Rinaldi Brunate, G Mascarello Monprivato, A Conterno Romirasco are mindblowers for me). I've not yet had Cavallotto from bottle or Cappellano at all and am anxious to.
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Well I don't get to taste anywheres near what these ITB people taste, but what is so wrong about ripe nebbiolo? I don't think it such a bad thing, with the exception being years like 2007 (which sound flabby to me), 1997, and many 2003's? I think 2006 has the ripeness but with structure too and these will be good wines in the future. Has anyone tried Brovia in 06?
 
It's all according to personal taste Mark. I've had the 06 Brovia Ca'Mia and Villero. I liked both, but thought both pushed the ripeness awfully far up against the high end of my comfort zone. I think I said something along the lines of "borderline raisined but very good" for the Villero, which I had maybe a year back, and something like "awesome but awfully ripe" for the Ca'Mia which I had more recently and liked better. I had a similar experience with F Rinaldi, about a year ago I thought the Cannubio was borderline over the top but I still liked it, more recently I thought the Brunate was brilliant if quite ripe. I want to taste the Brovia Rocche and Garblet Sue, and I want to retaste the others again in a year or so and see if it's more variation or if it's just a case of the wines settling down in bottle.

There was nothing overripe about 06 Romirasco last night, it was terrific.
 
originally posted by Josh Beck:
I'd love to hear more about the 07 Barolo controversy of which I haven't previously been aware.

I have had mixed feelings on 06. A few disastrously ripe, many straight up good wines (Produttori Torre, Vietti Castiglione, A Conterno Soprana), some very ripe but still tremendous wines that I think will shed some baby fat and gain more classical proportions (Brovia, F Rinaldi) and some true stunners (G Rinaldi Brunate, G Mascarello Monprivato, A Conterno Romirasco are mindblowers for me). I've not yet had Cavallotto from bottle or Cappellano at all and am anxious to.

I've had almost no 07's - a couple Barbaresco that were perfectly fine and in line with producer expectations. I have a Marcarini Brunate in the queue. I am very curious to hear more about the vintage from people who are tasting the bottled wines.
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Josh,

Antonio Galloni considers 2007s to be "some of the most viscerally thrilling young wines [he has] ever tasted," and considers both 2006 and 2007 to be quasi on par with 1989 and 1990. Of course not all wines, but he thinks very highly of how top producers' wines performed (Giacosa, Vietti, Bartolo, but modernists as well, in particular Voerzio, Clerico, Altare, Sandrone). The final reviews for late bottlers (Mauro Mascarello, Brovia, Vajra, etc.) will come out next month. In any case, he clearly thinks this is a great vintage. On the other hand, posters on the italian forum who have tasted at some of these wineries seem much less impressed by the wines. It seems that Greg and Levi also consider that there are few wines from the 2007 vintage that are living up to this hype. So that is my reading of the situation, and it seems that the views are divergent.
 
I was at the Galloni Barolo event last March. Finally met Levi there. While the 07s presented were very pretty Wines, there were only a couple that I thought were great Barolo. I haven't bought any, but then I'm not buying much wine anymore. Oh wait. I did buy Marcarini. Old habit. The 06s were better. Of course, many of the 07s were of the left-leaning persuasion, so I'm rarely interested in those, anyway. Christi, we should go to Dean's and drink some Barolo soon. Before he abandons the restaurant business, that is.
 
originally posted by Bob Semon:
I was at the Galloni Barolo event last March. Finally met Levi there. While the 07s presented were very pretty Wines, there were only a couple that I thought were great Barolo. I haven't bought any, but then I'm not buying much wine anymore. Oh wait. I did buy Marcarini. Old habit. The 06s were better. Of course, many of the 07s were of the left-leaning persuasion, so I'm rarely interested in those, anyway. Christi, we should go to Dean's and drink some Barolo soon. Before he abandons the restaurant business, that is.
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Is Dean set on closing down Dino's? I heard rumors that he was seeking to get out of his lease, but I didn't hear anything about definite plans of closing down.
 
He told me he didn't want to renew the current lease when it expires. May have been a particularly bad day for him, though. Who knows. That was in the spring, I think. Haven't spoken with him since. I haven't been back in the neighborhood. So it is old information.
 
originally posted by Bob Semon:
I was at the Galloni Barolo event last March. Finally met Levi there. While the 07s presented were very pretty Wines, there were only a couple that I thought were great Barolo. I haven't bought any, but then I'm not buying much wine anymore. Oh wait. I did buy Marcarini. Old habit. The 06s were better. Of course, many of the 07s were of the left-leaning persuasion, so I'm rarely interested in those, anyway. Christi, we should go to Dean's and drink some Barolo soon. Before he abandons the restaurant business, that is.
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I agree, we should! I'll be in touch soon.

I am not sure to what extent the debate is about how the wines show now vs how one expects they will show in the future. I for one have no extensive experience with old baroli, but the 1990s that I tried some months ago were phenomenal: Giuseppe Rinaldi Brunate Riserva, Conterno Francia, Giacosa [fill in the blanks], Monprivato, and on a different occasion Elio Grasso. If the 2007s turn out like that I will not be disappointed. Of course, the question is whether they will go that route. I'll let you know in 2027.
 
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