Michael Lewis
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Clos Rougeard
- Thread starter wrrntl
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originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Mark - they don't actually want to talk about wine.
Better yet, all they really do is talk about themselves while talking about wine.
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originally posted by Rahsaan:
I figured you posted here because this place is known for appreciating Rougeard
Nonsense. I have no appreciation for Rougeard. And I welcome the Man with No Vowels to enlighten me. Bring it on!
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
OK, so Fuck you, newbie (I just got back). But let's also notice that his first post on the board is a tasting of Clos Rougeard. Surely this debut reserves a special form of envious abuse and I haven't yet seen it.
I had already addressed the wine notes on another board.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Wisdom I offer.originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Does that mean we can actually kick out the n00b?originally posted by kirk wallace:
Always change a losing strategy; never change a winning one.
originally posted by Yixin:
VLM, I'll front the cost of testing for a bottle procured in France, with the over/under at 500micgrograms/litre (4-ethyl-phenol). How about that?
+1
I can totally line that sale up for you! ROFL ;P
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by David M. Bueker:
Mark - they don't actually want to talk about wine.
Better yet, all they really do is talk about themselves while talking about wine.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
I like his approach to naming. Can I be ftzss from now on?
Steven Spielmann
Steven Spielmann
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Can I be ftzss from now on?
Only if you want to preface every post with "excuse me."
Keith Levenberg
Keith Levenberg
Hey, those aren't pseudo-emoticons, those are traditional emoticons before they got all spoofy with non-ASCII.originally posted by BJ:
I give wrrntl an award for being the best n00b to date for dishing the shit right back. Well done!
But dude, seriously, loose the pseudo emoticons.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
originally posted by Steven Spielmann:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Can I be ftzss from now on?
Only if you want to preface every post with "excuse me."
Ouch!
originally posted by Keith Levenberg:
Hey, those aren't pseudo-emoticons, those are traditional emoticons before they got all spoofy with non-ASCII.originally posted by BJ:
I give wrrntl an award for being the best n00b to date for dishing the shit right back. Well done!
But dude, seriously, loose the pseudo emoticons.
They're fucking stupid n00bie shit that has no place in WD.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
Damn, BJ. You've been assimilated.
originally posted by Yixin:
VLM, I'll front the cost of testing for a bottle procured in France, with the over/under at 500micrograms/litre (4-ethyl-phenol). How about that?
You are on. What is that?
originally posted by wrrntl:
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by wrrntl:
originally posted by Brian C:
originally posted by wrrntl:
A funkier nose than the single vineyards and more greenness up front.
Is not the "clos" a single vineyard bottling? I thought, despite it's more vague name, that it was from a single regular block rather than a blend.
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No source to cite? Never heard that or seen that on anyone's website or blog. LD website has it only listed as AOC and since it no longer even says "Clos" maybe it used to be? Sure someone here can "own" me on that, too. Curious if you know where you heard this or are you just hopping on the "shit on newbs bandwagon"?
Fuck you noob, I hope you kill yourself. Christ, don't be such a pussy.
The Clos is indeed a single vineyard, much like the Bourg though less well situated, owned by the Foucault brothers. The Poyeux is worked by more than one family and is not by the house.
My source is my own memory, which is good enough for a court of law, but falls short in the lab.
The most recent 2004 Bourg I had also showed well. In fact, I'm a believer that it shows well before the Poyeux due to more limestone in the Poyeux vineyard making for a more angular wine.
A recent 2005 Clos was pretty backwards, especially juxtaposed with the 2004, which is beautiful now and sure to be for a long time if the 1997 is any gauge (it has been drinking well for about a decade).
As for the Brett notes, that has never been a problem with Rougeard, IME. I will often conflate Brett and reduction, the latter being more likely with Rougeard.
Count me at the head of the vanguard of drinking these when they still have some of their vibrancy of youth left. These are beautiful, regal wines and I feel lucky every time I get to drink one.
Hey Old Man I don't trust your memory and neither do any sources on the internet. Pulled from the winedoctor, you know some other schnook whose "specialty" is the Loire Valley:
The leading cuvée of Saumur-Champigny is Le Bourg, which comes from a 1 hectare plot of 70-year-old Cabernet Franc vines planted on soils comprised of a thin layer of clay. These are the vines that lie directly behind the courtyard and its anonymous gateway. There is also Les Poyeux, from a more distant plot of 45-year-old vines on more sandy soils, and finally for the reds there is the domaine Saumur-Champigny which is produced from other plots.
Another blog post by someone who visited through their connection, Jules Dressner, "the Clos, 4.5 ha of assorted smaller plots of Cabernet Franc"
Brett is not only an indication of bottle variation but tends to evoke different responses in many individuals. I know I am sensitive to any brett and do not consider it a flaw in these wines. Reduction and brett tend to be an issue with "natural" wines that don't or minimally use SO2, right? So is it surprising if it arises in a bottling you describe as "backwards"?
Hmmm, not sure that I'd take Jules as my source. What did Dougherty think?
I'm pretty sure I took a leak in the vineyard behind their house that was Clos, not Bourg.
I'll be in DC soon. What days do you work?
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originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
Why did you open these so young? I have one each of the three 2006s and didn't expect to touch them for another 10 years.
i give up.
i am retreating to the atoll of chubbiness, where i will surround myself with hot babes in boiler-suits, and booze myself silly under the volcano, thinking dark thoughts of world domination and shit.
fb.
originally posted by VLM:
As for the Brett notes, that has never been a problem with Rougeard, IME. I will often conflate Brett and reduction, the latter being more likely with Rougeard.
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Yixin:
VLM, I'll front the cost of testing for a bottle procured in France, with the over/under at 500micrograms/litre (4-ethyl-phenol). How about that?
You are on. What is that?
One of the products of brett activity. Wikipedia
Which bottle do you want to test? '97 Poyeux? Where do you want it tested? I only know ETS (in CA) and Merck (in Singapore).
Stake is cost of test (including bottle), and a mixed case of Clos Rougeard?