Need SF dinner recommendations

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Of course, you can get a lot more Vietnamese and Mexican food in Sioux City now than you could 15 years ago, too.
 
originally posted by Nathan Odem:
SUXThe food is the same as the airport code.

Still haven't been, but then I've only lived in Iowa for 12 years. But life is full of surprises. As is evidenced by my (gay, muslim, no seriously!) business partner's Algerian restaurant in Elkader Iowa, population 1500.

Cheers,

Kevin
 
originally posted by Carl Steefel:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by BJ:
Need SF dinner recommendationsDid this a couple years ago. Need recs for nice dinner, homey, good wine list. Down for a quick weekend. Thanks.

I've been lobbying for food from the Spencer truck + Terroir, but Mme L will have none of it. She wants a proper sit down.

Don't forget Oliveto in Oakland, right across from the BART station in Rockridge. Really exceptional pasta, their own salume, and great roasted secondi. Very nice wine list and super sweet, smart, spoof-free service.
I have not been back recently, but the last visit upstairs provided a quite expensive meal of only slightly above average quality at Oliveto. Before that, it was the downstairs cafe where they brought out spoiled meat and reheated (dried out) pasta. Unless they have brought their game back up, I think one could find much better places than this (Flour + Water, etc).

I'd love to know when this was, Carl. My BF and I have been eating at Oliveto (upstairs only) 2x per year, and 3 or 4 if we are lucky enough to be out in your great region more often than our usual bi-annual trips, for 8 years or so. And the meals we had there this past Xmas time and last Sunday were as good or better than any I recall. '96 g. Rinaldi Le Coste Barolo was also about as good a bottle of that as I've had.
 
originally posted by Larry Stein:
Yep, Cory is right. If you do go, bring a small flashlight and a magnifier for reading the wine list. It's packed onto one page and printed using a small font.

I assume since it's a quick trip that there's no time for a jeebus, correct?

Hi Larry, just saw this...indeed, regrettably, no time. Mostly a family weekend actually. Mme L is demanding a 24 hour city whirlwind, however, and she gets what she wants.
 
originally posted by Claude Kolm:

I know that one week after I went, a friend who is a prominent chef and his gf who also is professionally involved in food went,
But jesus, if those two can't get a perfect meal, who can?
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
But the world, and doubtless the Castro, have changed a lot since then.
Greenwich Village certainly ain't what it used to be. No obvious gay ghetto now, though I think a high proportion of hipsters still gravitate to a very few neighborhoods (e.g., East Village).
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by SFJoe:
But the world, and doubtless the Castro, have changed a lot since then.
Greenwich Village certainly ain't what it used to be. No obvious gay ghetto now, though I think a high proportion of hipsters still gravitate to a very few neighborhoods (e.g., East Village).

Jeff, surely one can still get some of the gay vibe walking along Christopher St? Or has it really changed that much since I departed the area?

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by SFJoe:
But the world, and doubtless the Castro, have changed a lot since then.
Greenwich Village certainly ain't what it used to be. No obvious gay ghetto now, though I think a high proportion of hipsters still gravitate to a very few neighborhoods (e.g., East Village).

Jeff, surely one can still get some of the gay vibe walking along Christopher St? Or has it really changed that much since I departed the area?

Mark Lipton

It has changed. In fact, on Christopher from Bleecker to Greenwich there are only 2 gay bars left.
 
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by Carl Steefel:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by BJ:
Need SF dinner recommendationsDid this a couple years ago. Need recs for nice dinner, homey, good wine list. Down for a quick weekend. Thanks.

I've been lobbying for food from the Spencer truck + Terroir, but Mme L will have none of it. She wants a proper sit down.

Don't forget Oliveto in Oakland, right across from the BART station in Rockridge. Really exceptional pasta, their own salume, and great roasted secondi. Very nice wine list and super sweet, smart, spoof-free service.
I have not been back recently, but the last visit upstairs provided a quite expensive meal of only slightly above average quality at Oliveto. Before that, it was the downstairs cafe where they brought out spoiled meat and reheated (dried out) pasta. Unless they have brought their game back up, I think one could find much better places than this (Flour + Water, etc).

I'd love to know when this was, Carl. My BF and I have been eating at Oliveto (upstairs only) 2x per year, and 3 or 4 if we are lucky enough to be out in your great region more often than our usual bi-annual trips, for 8 years or so. And the meals we had there this past Xmas time and last Sunday were as good or better than any I recall. '96 g. Rinaldi Le Coste Barolo was also about as good a bottle of that as I've had.
A few years ago, so it sounds like it is time to check back in with them.
 
originally posted by fatboy:
i'd actually be interested in the opinions of folks who know way more about this than i, but the vibe i got from people who have (and still do) run chow joints in the castro is that foodwise, it is largely a black hole. the folks who tend to hang in the castro have things other than teh chow on their minds, and the affluent gay dollars that one might expect -- based on stereotype -- to be there have better places to go and be.

comments?

fb.
I lived in the Castro for a couple of years, and you're not off. It's more of a party/pickup scene than a food scene. There are a few places doing decent stuff, but most of it is pretty average. I will recommend Sweet Inspirations on Market between 15th and 16th for its scones - most of the other pastries and cakes are mediocre, but their currant scones are wonderful, with just a bit of sugar and a perfect crumb.

Sorry to hear from those that had poor times at Frances. I can understand some of the entrees being let-downs, especially after all the hype. I stand by her salads, appetizers, and small dishes, though - they are consistantly amazing. I still think of some of the apps I've had, like a pea shoot/burrata/slivered carrot thing on toasted challah they served last spring. It was like spring was literally happening inside your mouth.

I just ate at Locanda last week and had a very nice meal - really wonderful fried sweetbreads & fried artichokes, and a delicious rabbit gnocchi. Occhipinti by the glass, too! It's another newer spot and reservations are probably nightmarish, but worth a try.
 
originally posted by BJ:
We're geared up for lunch at Cotogna and Nopa for dinner on Friday.

Sandi and I are spending an overnight on the 24th. Dinner at Cotogna (mentioned above) and brunch at Nopa on Sun. morning. Great minds...
 
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by BJ:
We're geared up for lunch at Cotogna and Nopa for dinner on Friday.

If Friday is this Friday, maybe we'll see you at lunch. We have a late resi at C tomorrow.

Yeah, it's tomorrow...though they had the nerve to tell me straight out we had to be done by 1. Sheesh! Welcome to Cotogna!

We'd be beating a quick exit anyway as we are going to do a quick sight see (well, shopping for vinyl, Klee at SFMOMA) and then to the burbs for the rest of the weekend.
 
originally posted by BJ:
originally posted by kirk wallace:
originally posted by BJ:
We're geared up for lunch at Cotogna and Nopa for dinner on Friday.

If Friday is this Friday, maybe we'll see you at lunch. We have a late resi at C tomorrow.

Yeah, it's tomorrow...though they had the nerve to tell me straight out we had to be done by 1. Sheesh! Welcome to Cotogna!

We'd be beating a quick exit anyway as we are going to do a quick sight see (well, shopping for vinyl, Klee at SFMOMA) and then to the burbs for the rest of the weekend.

Ah. We'll miss you. We don't get in to SFO until 1.

Have fun. Don't miss the pizza. Oh, and it's late in the season,but if they have pasta w/ dungenesse crab, my rec is that you get a large.
 
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