Singular wines

originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by maureen:
well, I hate to be predictable but Truchot's wines were pretty singular.
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I considered mentioning them but decided, "Nah, I'll just wait for Maureen."
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Jay (and Maureen), I would be interested in knowing what makes Truchot be mentioned like this.

. . . . . Pete
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Are non-grape wines part of the equation?

Because Ulupalakua Ranch's Maui Blanc is certainly singular, IMHO.
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You have been pushing for years this particular Maui Blanc because it goes so well with traditional pineapple smothered Hawaiian pizza. A "singular"abomination.
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
originally posted by Steven Morgan: old hanzell pinot noir
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Steven, This brings to my mind the old BV Pinot Noirs...which were really good and made good old bones.

. . . . . . Pete
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Had 92 a few weeks ago and it was stellar. A friend just had 77 and said it was still holding strong. Am working to get some more of the old stuff from the winery for the restaurant.
 
originally posted by Lou Kessler:
Familiar attempt
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Are non-grape wines part of the equation?

Because Ulupalakua Ranch's Maui Blanc is certainly singular, IMHO.
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You have been pushing for years this particular Maui Blanc because it goes so well with traditional pineapple smothered Hawaiian pizza. A "singular"abomination.
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"Hawaiian" pizza is about as Hawaiian as "English muffins" are English.

Damnit, I've been trolled, haven't I?
 
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Are non-grape wines part of the equation?

Because Ulupalakua Ranch's Maui Blanc is certainly singular, IMHO.
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Of course I have a 20 year-old bottle of this wine in the cellar. It's probably near peak so whenever you're ready, Chris.
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Are non-grape wines part of the equation?

Because Ulupalakua Ranch's Maui Blanc is certainly singular, IMHO.
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Of course I have a 20 year-old bottle of this wine in the cellar. It's probably near peak so whenever you're ready, Chris.
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Um, I hate to call this into question, Kay, but this isn't one of the bottles that Rudy Kurniawan was offering around, was it?
 
originally posted by Kay Bixler:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
Are non-grape wines part of the equation?

Because Ulupalakua Ranch's Maui Blanc is certainly singular, IMHO.
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Of course I have a 20 year-old bottle of this wine in the cellar. It's probably near peak so whenever you're ready, Chris.
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You have such amazing patience. I have the same problem with Ulupalakua Ranch as I do with Clos Roche Blanche: just can't keep my hands off them when they're young, so I miss out on the glory of a nicely aged bottle.
 
I'd say Quintarelli Amarone because nothing in the category quite matches, but honestly, Domaine Fourrier, Gevrey-Chambertin Aux Echézeaux 2006. I drank it with my ex-girlfriend on Easter at Hearth before many tragic things befell us and it was the perfect bottle for that time and being in love and thinking that no horizon had any limits. It was a singular bottle and night which had all the physical impermanence of a mayfly, but the eternity that faith allows. In many ways bottle which can have no peer.

Back to your regular scheduled wine geekery. As Levi and Joe D. remind(ed) us, the bottle speaks, are you listening?

Best, John
 
originally posted by Peter Creasey:
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by maureen:
well, I hate to be predictable but Truchot's wines were pretty singular.
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I considered mentioning them but decided, "Nah, I'll just wait for Maureen."
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Jay (and Maureen), I would be interested in knowing what makes Truchot be mentioned like this.

. . . . . Pete
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Well, at the risk of violating my own "shhhh" rule when it comes to Truchot (but, really, what's the point now? the wines are already selling for way more than they should and I'll never buy another so...), Truchot's wines were fairly unique, at least in the 90s, for burgundy. He had old vines and was a farmer, not really a winemaker. He used very traditional methods - i.e., no new oak (well, apparently he used a little starting in 1996 on the Charmes but not too much and it wasn't really apparent), no attempt to keep down yields, no filtering, nothing fancy. His wines would be light in color in their youth (well, in middle and old age too but by then even wines of the same age that were dark when young might be the same color) and marked by their fragrances. Not extracted, not rich - pretty and fragrant and long and totally worth the modest prices they used to sell for. Truchot lovers are constantly looking for the "next Truchot" because he retired. Not sure I've found one yet.

So Truchot lovers tend to think Truchot's wines are sui generis.
 
Truchot lovers are constantly looking for the "next Truchot" because he retired. Not sure I've found one yet.
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Do you think there is anything that comes close? I have heard some rumblings about Maison Ilan being in the same vein as Truchot, although there are differences. Not having tried the (Maison Ilan) wines myself, I am not qualified to opine on the subject. Do you have a view? Or a view of Maison Ilan more generally?
 
Maureen, No wonder I was befuddled! I thought you and Jay were making reference to the Truchot Bordeaux...which I am fairly familiar with.

originally posted by maureen: Truchot lovers are constantly looking for the "next Truchot" because he retired. Not sure I've found one yet.
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I share your sorrow.

Isn't it sad when classic-style producers like Truchot, Engel, (Maurice) Ecard, etal are no longer serving up fine and affordable offerings!?!

. . . . . Pete
 
Gentaz Cote Rotie
Simon Maye Syrah
Denis Mercier Cornalin
Valdespino Moscatel Toneles
Niepoort Garrafeira
Jose Maria da Fonseca Moscatel and Bastardinho
Castillo de YGAY White
Raymond Trollat St Joseph
CVNE Corona Semidulce
Dupasquier Altesse Roussette de Savoie Marestel
Valentini
Quinta das Bagueiras Branco
 
originally posted by John McIlwain:
I'd say Quintarelli Amarone because nothing in the category quite matches, but honestly, Domaine Fourrier, Gevrey-Chambertin Aux Echézeaux 2006. I drank it with my ex-girlfriend on Easter at Hearth before many tragic things befell us and it was the perfect bottle for that time and being in love and thinking that no horizon had any limits. It was a singular bottle and night which had all the physical impermanence of a mayfly, but the eternity that faith allows. In many ways bottle which can have no peer.

Back to your regular scheduled wine geekery. As Levi and Joe D. remind(ed) us, the bottle speaks, are you listening?

Best, John
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This is very moving. Thank you for bringing real and earnest talk here, f'real.
 
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