Singular wines

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:


Oh, I meant those of us who playact to frolic in the sunlight and bolster ourselves with big personality wines.
Click to expand...

big personality wines never make you smile like the little wines with a secret. the latter are wines you keep to yourself. the former are why teh boardz is so full of teh angry folks.

is it any wonder chris takes refuge in teh cave?

fb.
 
Nothing like using culture as a weapon, trying to make others feel bad. Score another for fathead.

"I'm the only one who knows, I've put in the time, only me" : it's so tired, bro. You are just another wannabe taste dictator.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Nothing like using culture as a weapon, trying to make others feel bad. Score another for fathead.

"I'm the only one who knows, I've put in the time, only me" : it's so tired, bro. You are just another wannabe taste dictator.
Click to expand...

why exactly does it offend you that i think that people should take some time to learn about the wines that they talk about?

or that i personally think that understanding the wines is more interesting than knowing a bunch of stories about the people who made the wines?

and why launch in with tedious invective when my comment praised some choices while questioning others?

as ever: what is your problem, little man?

fb.
 
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
why exactly does it offend you that i think that people should take some time to learn about the wines that they talk about?
Click to expand...

Why do you assume no one does?
Click to expand...

i don't. my examples weren't exclusive on that front. far from: i chose them to acknowledge the that many people do exactly this. all power to them (my assumption is that i know 5% of what some contributors know about truchot, for example).

but, for the most part, i genuinely don't believe that people have taken the time to really get to know many of the wines mentioned on this thread. do you really think they have?

i may be wrong. isn't that what discussion is for?

and i think that the underlying point -- that the truly singular wines are not outliers per se, but rather the shit that you begin to understand as outliers when you understand what seem to be their peers at a superficial level -- is getting lost in the wash of a few people getting offended at teh fatboy expressing an opinion at all.

fb.
 
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by Jim Hanlon:
why exactly does it offend you that i think that people should take some time to learn about the wines that they talk about?
Click to expand...

Why do you assume no one does?
Click to expand...

i don't. my examples weren't exclusive on that front. far from: i chose them to acknowledge the that many people do exactly this. all power to them (my assumption is that i know 5% of what some contributors know about truchot, for example).

but, for the most part, i genuinely don't believe that people have taken the time to really get to know many of the wines mentioned on this thread. do you really think they have?

i may be wrong. isn't that what discussion is for?

and i think that the underlying point -- that the truly singular wines are not outliers per se, but rather the shit that you begin to understand as outliers when you understand what seem to be their peers at a superficial level -- is getting lost in the wash of a few people getting offended at teh fatboy expressing an opinion at all.

fb.
Click to expand...

well said. why not just say this the first time?
 
originally posted by fatboy:
for me, one of the coolest things about truchot was the lack of any markedly obvious differences between the villages and the 1er cru and the gc. the difference was in the terroir, and the farming of same, and in its subtle expression through balance, etc., and not in any spooge that was added to reassure you, the consumer, that you were getting what you paid for in the higher appellations
Click to expand...

If I frame a copy of this, can it be a signed copy? I can't afford the original.
 
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
Nothing like using culture as a weapon, trying to make others feel bad. Score another for fathead.

"I'm the only one who knows, I've put in the time, only me" : it's so tired, bro. You are just another wannabe taste dictator.
Click to expand...

why exactly does it offend you that i think that people should take some time to learn about the wines that they talk about?

or that i personally think that understanding the wines is more interesting than knowing a bunch of stories about the people who made the wines?

and why launch in with tedious invective when my comment praised some choices while questioning others?

as ever: what is your problem, little man?

fb.
Click to expand...

You don't know anything about me, or what I know. Actually you couldn't, because recognizing something about someone else may be in fact be impossible for you. You don't seem too good at looking past the outsize mirror.

I don't have a problem. I'm pointing out that once again you are acting in a manner that presents yourself at some pinnacle of enlightenment that only you have, and I think it's unappealing as a character trait.

Don't go in to a conversation and call everyone out for being simple minded and expect to be the most popular guy in the room, dude. You're a douchebag and a bully (surely this isn't the first time you've heard this?). Just own it and move on.
 
originally posted by fatboy:
expressing quality without adding the training wheels of spooge, "extra" and "personality" is the hardest thing a winemaker can ever seek to do. the will and guts and sheer stupidity to make this kind shit is rare -- many winemaking dudes that you meet who really care and would really like to do this sort of thing never will have the confidence in themselves to even try -- and this is why it is that when you stumble across such a wine, it really does represent the most singular expression of terroir and winemaking that you will ever encounter.
Click to expand...
This seems an unfair characterization. How many wine-makers have you met who are shy about their work? How many wine-makers have you met who own a great or interesting property and purposely don't give it their best shot?

If you want to make a point about rarity, kindly do so with less trash-talk and less whinging.
 
and i think that the underlying point -- that the truly singular wines are not outliers per se, but rather the shit that you begin to understand as outliers when you understand what seem to be their peers at a superficial level -- is getting lost in the wash of a few people getting offended at teh fatboy expressing an opinion at all.
Click to expand...

This I agree with. One of the best things about wine is that it's beyond us, but rewards patient effort towards appreciation.
 
Fatboy, Levi, others of similar inclinations.

The Politburo lacks the patient and ancient methodology of the Doghead, who would instruct each of you nitwits at which point you first deviated from basic civility, and how you might improve your ways to be worthy of civilization, rather than stark, solitary, isolated Truth, apparent in particular to each of you.

A few words.

Insult isn't really argument. It's a failure to find something that might amuse the group. Let's see if you can't reach for wit.

Totally personal matters between individuals are typically of limited interest to the collective, and are best adjudicated by personal message, email, voodoo doll, hex, or some other private means. Really, the rest of us don't give a shit.

Being simple Politburo types of simple tastes, we urge you to find a way to imagine that there is such a thing as a public discussion about public issues that can be isolated from your fragile egos, or we would regret to dispense with your services and your (well, some of your) valued contributions to the board. Which is to say, we'll shoot you without remorse. We've had a lot of practice.

Really. Imagine there's no countries. Imagine that you can discuss an idea without obsessing about whose it was and why. Imagine that you can let go of your ego.

Or we shoot you between the eyes.

P
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by SFJoe:
Comrades,

You make it so hard to arrange a dinner party.
Click to expand...

Man, it's like trying to figure out who can't be in the room with Kane this week.
Click to expand...

You're blacklisted until you get some more notes up, Herr Cod.
Click to expand...

You can't blacklist me! I BLACKLIST YOU! *shakes fist*

KANE NAMED NAMES!
 
Too late, politburo, and in the wrong order. How many times do I have to tell you - dead bodies are the most effective warnings.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by fatboy:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by fatboy:
which is to say that mostly, this thread makes depressing reading.
Click to expand...

I think this thread was written by depressed people.
Click to expand...

don't dwell on chris and his fatcave. at least until you've tried it. it ain't like you think.

fb.
Click to expand...

Oh, I meant those of us who playact to frolic in the sunlight and bolster ourselves with big personality wines.

Chris does seem to see in the dark.
Click to expand...

Wait. Who said that?

Is that you, Jenise?
 
Politburo aside, it's refreshing to see that in these latter days, after Dressner went and kicked the bucket, Doghead spit the bit, Yaniger turned to Ron Paul, Plotnicki faded into obscurity and the God of Thunder went back to Asgard, that there are fine folks willing to keep the grand old tradition of overly-personalized wineboard bickering alive and well. This thread makes me a little misty, I must confess.

Kudos all around!
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top