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Horrible news. Hail devastates Vouvray.
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Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Anonyme or alias?
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Who here knows how to set up a Kickstarter-type mechanism? Joe?
I believe this is how Joe funds much of his work.
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
Who here knows how to set up a Kickstarter-type mechanism? Joe?
I believe this is how Joe funds much of his work.
Everything I know I learned from alice.
It looks as if François Chidaine has been badly hit. He is in the process of building a new winery and could go under if his bankers pull the plug http://jimsloire.blogspot.be/2013/06/vouvray-and-montlouis-can-we-help.html?spref=fb .
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
OK, Disorderlies, we know we want to help. We believe the answer is to send money. I see three plausible vehicles to do that:
1. Just throw money at your favorite vigneron over PayPal, by check, whatever, and hope that neither his pride nor the French tax agencies prevent it.
2. Kickstarter, et al, will probably gather more money and cause the vigneron fewer headaches. Does anyone know how such a gift would be viewed by the French tax authorities?
3. Persuade LDM, et al, to ship some library releases at higher prices. They can do it on spec or we can get together to pre-order.
Yea? Nay? Other? Anyone know a French tax attorney?
1. Just throw money at your favorite vigneron over PayPal, by check, whatever, and hope that neither his pride nor the French tax agencies prevent it.
2. Kickstarter, et al, will probably gather more money and cause the vigneron fewer headaches. Does anyone know how such a gift would be viewed by the French tax authorities?
3. Persuade LDM, et al, to ship some library releases at higher prices. They can do it on spec or we can get together to pre-order.
Yea? Nay? Other? Anyone know a French tax attorney?
Josefa Concannon
Josefa Concannon
Patience, Grasshoppers - we are working on the library release thing. Sheila wrote to François and as soon as I have some information on what is available, I will pass it along.
originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Patience, Grasshoppers - we are working on the library release thing. Sheila wrote to François and as soon as I have some information on what is available, I will pass it along.
Also, I know a guy who knows a French tax attorney or three, and inquiries are in progress. (He sometimes posts here, but hasn't on this question).
Tristan Welles
Tristan Welles
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Patience, Grasshoppers - we are working on the library release thing. Sheila wrote to François and as soon as I have some information on what is available, I will pass it along.
Also, I know a guy who knows a French tax attorney or three, and inquiries are in progress. (He sometimes posts here, but hasn't on this question).
The library release idea: A few years ago a group on a different message board formed a syndicate to buy at the Hospice de Beaune auction. Is it possible to form a similar group and buy whatever M. Pinon thinks he would like to part with in bulk (and at full mark up). Would this allow him to take the margin usually syphoned off by other tiers? Alleviate the bureaucracy needed to sell in partial shipments?
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Patience, Grasshoppers - we are working on the library release thing. Sheila wrote to François and as soon as I have some information on what is available, I will pass it along.
Also, I know a guy who knows a French tax attorney or three, and inquiries are in progress. (He sometimes posts here, but hasn't on this question).
He relays to me a pessimistic view. There doesn't seem an obvious way to avoid some steep French taxes.
originally posted by Tristan Welles:
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Patience, Grasshoppers - we are working on the library release thing. Sheila wrote to François and as soon as I have some information on what is available, I will pass it along.
Also, I know a guy who knows a French tax attorney or three, and inquiries are in progress. (He sometimes posts here, but hasn't on this question).
The library release idea: A few years ago a group on a different message board formed a syndicate to buy at the Hospice de Beaune auction. Is it possible to form a similar group and buy whatever M. Pinon thinks he would like to part with in bulk (and at full mark up). Would this allow him to take the margin usually syphoned off by other tiers? Alleviate the bureaucracy needed to sell in partial shipments?
I expect the tiers to use a very, very small siphon on this one. Intermediaries will recoup costs, but the cash will flow back to Vouvray.
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
originally posted by SFJoe:
He relays to me a pessimistic view. There doesn't seem an obvious way to avoid some steep French taxes.
Anything involving making money in France is indeed the source of great, great bleakness.
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I'd buy fizz futures.
50th anniversary of the great 1964 vintage, or something to that effect.
Imagine if the Champagne producers find out they are selling futures of Loire Petillant?
50th anniversary of the great 1964 vintage, or something to that effect.
Imagine if the Champagne producers find out they are selling futures of Loire Petillant?
Maybe we could sneak him in under the exception for soccer stars?originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
originally posted by SFJoe:
He relays to me a pessimistic view. There doesn't seem an obvious way to avoid some steep French taxes.
Anything involving making money in France is indeed the source of great, great bleakness.
originally posted by Josefa Concannon:
Patience, Grasshoppers - we are working on the library release thing. Sheila wrote to François and as soon as I have some information on what is available, I will pass it along.
Yes, as soon as there is news on this front, and it looks to be the front, info will be provided.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
originally posted by Don Rice:
Well I just cleaned out the 05 Cuvee Botrytis from 67th St wines. Looking forward to assisting in other ways.
A noble sacrifice indeed!
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
A noble rotten sacrifice.
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
I will make public my desire to overpay for back vintages of Pinon, so as not to miss out on any related e-mails that happen to make their way through the intertubes. Julien told me the '21 was pretty good on its 90th birthday. Just saying.