Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
I noticed it and liked it well enough, but it wasn't what mattered. And, in my case, it blew off by my second glass. Preserving that element is certainly not what would keep me from aging it.
What did you drink tonight?
- Thread starter Kay Bixler
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I noticed it and liked it well enough, but it wasn't what mattered. And, in my case, it blew off by my second glass. Preserving that element is certainly not what would keep me from aging it.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
So you're saying they could get better, unless of course they get worse.
scottreiner
scott reiner
I bought a bunch with the idea of aging some. But, while I am intellectually curious about how the wine will taste in 10 years, the wine is so damned good I assume that I will have none left.
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some of us are still in search of another 1996
Marc Hanes
Marc Hanes
Scott, I am putting two bottles of 2012 Pepiere Briords in my cellar. I have discipline. Remind me in ten years and we'll pop one.
scottreiner
scott reiner
Nice!
and .sashe, good luck!
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
I have 10 year old Pepiere Briords and Luneau-Papin L D'Or in my cellar (alas, not 20 and 30year old ones)and I'm glad I do. I have to taste an 02 in temporal proximity to a 12, though, to decide whether I wouldn't want just to drink the 12 up. To be clear, I'm not saying either that the 02 didn't taste great fresh off the boat (it did) or that there is any reason to think that the 12 won't age nicely. But the 12 fresh of the boat doesn't taste like the 02 did at the same stage, and it is intellectually conceivable to me that, even if it ages into something also nice, I wouldn't have preferred to drink it when it is like it is now.
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can you elaborate?
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
A few notes while we wait for Mike Evans to post about the old Puzelat and C-R-B.
2011 Noella Morantin Terre Blanche sparkly chardonnay has gentle bubbles and a dense core. Usually I am of a Coadian mind and prefer wine to be still but this is a treat.
2011 Puffeney Poulsard also a treat if a bit subdued on this night. Honest wine. Blessed be he drinks who poulsard.
2003 R. Lopez de Heredia Rioja Vina Bosconia, rustic, lightly rasined nose, flowers, old casks, red berries, in the mouth it is silken tannin. Vibrant. $22, what a steal.
Quinta do Infantado Ruby Porto is not hugely aromatic but on the tongue it is light and fresh. Barely sweet. A very February drink. At $13 also a steal.
2011 Noella Morantin Terre Blanche sparkly chardonnay has gentle bubbles and a dense core. Usually I am of a Coadian mind and prefer wine to be still but this is a treat.
2011 Puffeney Poulsard also a treat if a bit subdued on this night. Honest wine. Blessed be he drinks who poulsard.
2003 R. Lopez de Heredia Rioja Vina Bosconia, rustic, lightly rasined nose, flowers, old casks, red berries, in the mouth it is silken tannin. Vibrant. $22, what a steal.
Quinta do Infantado Ruby Porto is not hugely aromatic but on the tongue it is light and fresh. Barely sweet. A very February drink. At $13 also a steal.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
I saw some of this Puffeney locally (D.C.) last week (also some Gahier) but was on the fence - better try one. Have you probed his pinot?
scottreiner
scott reiner
i would say, or write as it were, that it's is hard to go wrong with Puffeney.
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
Have not had the pinot in several vintages but would certainly give it a try.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
I hear and obey, or will obey, next time I'm down that way. Pricing is fairly sane, too.
Cheers.
Cheers.
By coincidence we drank 2004 Puffeney Pinot Noir this week.
It was delicious. Aged to the point where the tannin has mostly dropped out and the fruit left seems sweet without the drying tannin to counter it. It still had acid for structure and was lively and refreshing. There was a nice Pinot purity to it. Some maturing flavors too. Really a lovely bottle. Clear bright ruby color with orange at the rim of the glass.
It was a singleton from a mixed case of Jura wines and I never tried it in it's youth.
My strategy has been to try and buy Puffeney Trousseau Berangeres every year which has worked out so far but now I wish I bought some more Pinot.
Mike Evans
Mike Evans
My notes are coming, but it probably be this weekend after Comcast (hopefully) fixes my home internet connection. It's a lot to try to transcribe on an iPhone.
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it had the textural quality riesling gets in middle age, just before the benzine kicks in. yellow fruit, and yet still racy.
definitely my tub of lard.
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Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
Well, I don't do tasting notes. But, in addition to the sweetness that put you off, the wine seemed to have a creaminess around the usual minerality that I usually identify with older Briords or--come to think of it--the Clissons.