'99 beaucastel and '05 Servin Vaillons

[drssouth]

1999 Chateau Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape, Rouge, alc 13.5%. tag reads $47.99....decanted for about an hour....a bit of clearing at the edge but still deeply colored...nose shows well with some terroir and garrigue....palate is layer upon layer of savory and mild sweetness.....still some moderate tannins...has really become more interesting....still youthful overall but drinking extremely well....did well with Beef Paprikash

while cooking
2005 Marcel Servin Chablis 1er Cru Vaillons, alc 13%.... a bit dark in color but amazingly rich and youthful...great texture and mouthfeel..drinking well.... no premox but some maturity that provides pleasure...

 

[Peter Creasey]

originally posted by drssouth: '99 beaucastel and '05 Servin Vaillons1999 Chateau Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape, Rouge....decanted for about an hour.

Stephen, I pulled a bottle the other night with the same results although my decant time was nearer zero than an hour. Carefully served at 60 degrees.

Really fine! Great food wine!

. . . . . Pete

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

originally posted by drssouth:
'99 beaucastel and '05 Servin Vaillons1999 Chateau Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape, Rouge, alc 13.5%. tag reads $47.99....nose shows well with some terroir and garrigue...

Very interesting, what does terroir smell like?

 

[Bill Lundstrom]

originally posted by drssouth:

2005 Marcel Servin Chablis 1er Cru Vaillons, alc 13%.... a bit dark in color but amazingly rich and youthful...great texture and mouthfeel..drinking well.... no premox but some maturity that provides pleasure...

Recently had a badly premoxed 2007 Le Clos from Servin. Disappointing to say the least as I like this producer.

 

[kirk wallace]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:


Very interesting, what does terroir smell like?

Did anyone ever tell you smell like Catalina in the morning?

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by kirk wallace:
Did anyone ever tell you smell like Catalina in the morning?

Nothing could be finah.

 

[kirk wallace]

Wrong movie.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

originally posted by kirk wallace:

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:


Very interesting, what does terroir smell like?

Did anyone ever tell you smell like Catalina in the morning?

In the morning like Catalina, yes, but not specifically like Catalina in the morning.

 

[kirk wallace]

you are right; i mangled the line. how embarrassing.

 

[drssouth]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:

originally posted by drssouth:
'99 beaucastel and '05 Servin Vaillons1999 Chateau Beaucastel Chateauneuf du Pape, Rouge, alc 13.5%. tag reads $47.99....nose shows well with some terroir and garrigue...

Very interesting, what does terroir smell like?

shouldn't drink and type...
earthiness was what I was thinking...fresh turned earth

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

We are nothing without a sense of humus.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

I haven't had the 99 Beau for a year or so, but when I last did, I had the same experience I have had with every one made since 98--nice wines but never as distinctive as the Beaucastels made up through 94 or so. I had the 00 this past weekend and was confirmed in that view. I'll try them all again in some years and hope to be shown wrong. It used to be my favorite producer.

 

[Sharon Bowman]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:

originally posted by kirk wallace:

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:


Very interesting, what does terroir smell like?

Did anyone ever tell you smell like Catalina in the morning?

In the morning like Catalina, yes, but not specifically like Catalina in the morning.

What is this?

 

[Jeff Grossman]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
We are nothing without a sense of humus.

I think Pita went to Tahini for vacation.

 

[Oswaldo Costa]

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
We are nothing without a sense of humus.

I think Pita went to Tahini for vacation.

Where they debated the issue of humus v. hummus.

 

[MLipton]

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:

originally posted by Jeff Grossman:

originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
We are nothing without a sense of humus.

I think Pita went to Tahini for vacation.

Where they debated the issue of humus v. hummus.

Oh, the humusity!

Mark Lipton

 

[drssouth]

originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
I haven't had the 99 Beau for a year or so, but when I last did, I had the same experience I have had with every one made since 98--nice wines but never as distinctive as the Beaucastels made up through 94 or so. I had the 00 this past weekend and was confirmed in that view. I'll try them all again in some years and hope to be shown wrong. It used to be my favorite producer.

I would agree
we had the '78/89/90/98 and '01 together a few months ago and the newer ones seemed more "polished" and less interesting

 

[SFJoe]

'90 could use a little "polish," IME.

 

[Jonathan Loesberg]

originally posted by SFJoe:
'90 could use a little "polish," IME.

Different strokes, as they say.

 

[SFJoe]

A horse is a horse, of course of course, as they say.