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The '02 petillant 1st release and pet reserve were both lovely in the last week.

The 1st was very mature and complex, a few bubbles remaining. Very nice but will definitely accelerate my pace with remaining bottles. Wowed a few non wino types at a TdF mountain stage party.

The reserve was fuller-bodied and rich, quite sec and basically still wine with a few prickles. Really delicious and long, better as it warmed toward 65-70F. This bottle seemed capable of going another 5-10.

While this was lovely bottle of the regular pet, I'm not sure I ever loved this wine more than shortly after release. The reserve on the other hand shows more minerality and depth to me than when it first landed, when it was rather primary imo.
 
Just opened a 2002 LHL demi to drink with some baked butternut squash from the garden (yup, here in NC it is already ripe.) I haven't opened any of my 2002s in a while out of fear. Alas, almost all the LHL sec got fast-tracked to teh fatsink or dumped into the stew pot with shortribs.

This, however, is lovely. Sure it is slightly nutty (tad of premox, perhaps?) - but much lighter in color than most of the other bottles I have opened.
 
originally posted by mark e:
baked butternut squash from the garden (yup, here in NC it is already ripe.)
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I guess if it is from your garden then you were forced to eat it. But I don't care how ripe the squash is (and I just saw plenty in the market), there's no way I'm buying that stuff in August when tomatoes and peppers and eggplant are still so abundant.
 
Jay brought a '02 Petillant first release to today's bacon palooza. Definitely showing some pox. I've certainly had better examples, but I've also had worse.
 
originally posted by Brad Kane:
Jay brought a '02 Petillant first release to today's bacon palooza. Definitely showing some pox. I've certainly had better examples, but I've also had worse.
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Only a little though. I've had much worse. But not nearly as good as the pristine bottle Jeff opened in the cellar a short while ago.
 
Last night I contemplated drinking a 2002 Petillant Reserve, and in my imagination it was not pre-moxed. But I never actually pulled the cork.
 
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
Last night I contemplated drinking a 2002 Petillant Reserve, and in my imagination it was not pre-moxed. But I never actually pulled the cork.
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Jean-Paul Sartre is sitting in his favorite bar-tabac, working on his draft of Being and Nothingness and, when the waitress comes to take his order, he says he'll have a coffee without cream. The waitress says they don't have any cream, but says he can have a coffee without milk if he'd like.

If you don't like that one:

I can imagine a perfect being.
A being that doesn't exist is obviously not as good as a being that does and hence not perfect.
QED, God, a perfect being exists, because it is a contradiction to say that I can imagine a perfect being if the being does not exist and therefore is not perfect.

And bada bing...
 
Last night's 02 Le Mont demi seemed poxed at first but turned out to be spectacular. The 02 Cazin Renaissance, on the other hand, was dead as a doornail.
 
I can imagine a perfect being.
A being that doesn't exist is obviously not as good as a being that does and hence not perfect.
QED, God, a perfect being exists, because it is a contradiction to say that I can imagine a perfect being if the being does not exist and therefore is not perfect.
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I don't see why the second statement is irrefutably true.
 
originally posted by Christian Miller (CMM):
I can imagine a perfect being.
A being that doesn't exist is obviously not as good as a being that does and hence not perfect.
QED, God, a perfect being exists, because it is a contradiction to say that I can imagine a perfect being if the being does not exist and therefore is not perfect.
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I don't see why the second statement is irrefutably true.
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Yes, and I'm also skeptical about the claim that anyone can imagine a completely perfect being.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
Last night I contemplated drinking a 2002 Petillant Reserve, and in my imagination it was not pre-moxed. But I never actually pulled the cork.
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Jean-Paul Sartre is sitting in his favorite bar-tabac, working on his draft of Being and Nothingness and, when the waitress comes to take his order, he says he'll have a coffee without cream. The waitress says they don't have any cream, but says he can have a coffee without milk if he'd like.
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Reminds me of one of the better exchanges in The Ref:

Lloyd: "She takes photography lessons... She takes Scandinavian cooking classes... She takes existential philosophy classes..."
Caroline: "At least I go after my dreams!"
Lloyd: "To be what? Someone who takes photographs of lutfish to PROVE the nothingness of being? No wonder our son's so confused!"
 
I don't think the first claim in the ontological argument is a problem. I accidentally misrepresented it slightly, though. It is, I can conceive of a perfect being. All you have to do for it to work is to conceive of the thing, not imagine it in all its details. Kant agrees with Christian about the second statement. As he puts it, more or less, existence is not a predicate. After you have described a thing, if you say, "and it exists," you have added new information about it, but you haven't given it a new property.

But not everybody agrees with Kant. This is maybe the oldest proof of the existence of god, and about the only one left standing in some more or less battered shape. Nobody likes it really, though.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
But not everybody agrees with Kant. This is maybe the oldest proof of the existence of god, and about the only one left standing in some more or less battered shape. Nobody likes it really, though.
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What about the limitations of the device doing the conceiving? All minds are not created equal and perhaps they all have some/many limitations, of which some are consistent across the entire kind.

Not buying any of it until George Burns sits down across from me and introduces himself.
 
Conceive of yourself as doing the conceiving and you'll come out the same place.

The George Burns reference is more to the point. Even from the beginning, there was a sense of paradox replacing real conclusion going on. For instance, one could argue that the same argument would prove the existence of perfect unicorns. Just start by assuming that you can conceive of a perfect unicorn and the rest seems to follow. Anselm's answer to this was that a perfect unicorn wasn't a perfect being and since unicorsn would always be in some way imperfect, the absence of existence wouldn't create a contradiction. The fiddling is clearly about the word perfection.

Personally, I plump for Kant, whose larger point is that one can't prove material existence with purely abstract thought.

All proofs for the existence of god, remember, are like crossword puzzles. They never actually convert anybody. But they provide interesting intellectual exercises. The fact that both the argument from design and the argument from first causes are essentially gone is as if we've solved the rubrik cube twice. It would be a loss to critical thinking if the ontological argument were just solved. As long as no one really buys it, which is mostly the case.
 
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Three interesting 2002s over the weekend, poured and consumed outdoors.

02 Huet Pet Reserve (I bought this at Crush NYC) - Quite youthful, rounder around the edges than 1st release.
02 Foreau Brut Reserve - less expressive on opening than either Huet. Fine structure, dense and compact. Hold.
02 Huet Petillant 1st release - some thought premox. To me it was herbal and expressive, the most so of the three. You could say more evolved than the two reserves, but in a good way to me.
 
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