2013 Tempier rose

originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
One more
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Good with smoked trout BLTs, just by the bye.
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Just so something gets said about wine: I think this is Charvin's best rosé yet. The coolness of 2013--which will no doubt garner mediocre reviews for the wines--produced lower alcohol fresher wines. It is sold out at the domaine by the way, so it's more available in the US than here.
 
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
14% abv, just by the bye.
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His CdPs and CdRs are below 14. I think, so was this, despite the label. Taste it against last year's version (yes I know how likely that is) and you'll see the difference, although I expect that was also labelled 14. Remember these can all be off by 1/2 % either way. There is a reason you liked it.
 
"Remember these can all be off by 1/2 % either way. There is a reason you liked it."

isn't it +/- 1.5%? hence the strip labels you'll see that state "11%-14% alcohol"?

with the caveat that if it's over 14% the tax in the u.s. is higher, so labelling a wine that's say 14.4% as 13.9% is a no-no because it cheats the government.
 
originally posted by robert ames:
"Remember these can all be off by 1/2 % either way. There is a reason you liked it."

isn't it +/- 1.5%? hence the strip labels you'll see that state "11%-14% alcohol"?

with the caveat that if it's over 14% the tax in the u.s. is higher, so labelling a wine that's say 14.4% as 13.9% is a no-no because it cheats the government.
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I believe the tolerance is tighter above 14%, +/- 1%.
 
And what I love about that split is the implicit assumption that wine above 14% must have been fortified.
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by robert ames:
"Remember these can all be off by 1/2 % either way. There is a reason you liked it."

isn't it +/- 1.5%? hence the strip labels you'll see that state "11%-14% alcohol"?

with the caveat that if it's over 14% the tax in the u.s. is higher, so labelling a wine that's say 14.4% as 13.9% is a no-no because it cheats the government.
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I believe the tolerance is tighter above 14%, +/- 1%.
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Exactly. Why I have no idea, though.

The only thing I've heard enforced is the tax rate; I heard that Kendall Jackson de-alcoholises their Chardonnay to 13.9% to reduce their tax bill.
 
They should use the now popular Shardonnay label. Probably no taxes at all. And no consumer would complain, or tell the difference.
 
originally posted by Levi Dalton:
originally posted by scottreiner:
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
One word, Scott: Montenidoli.
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well that's exciting, as I've never heard of the producer! Thanks!!
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I would recommend as well.
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We drank a couple bottles of this yesterday, it was delicious.
Thank you both for the recommendation.
 
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
I am going to go further. It is the Platonic form of rose.
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I finally sat down with an entire bottle of this. Holy crap, is it good.

In addition, I think that this is a perfectly acceptable use of form in Plato's sense, although I suppose the form itself never has a material instantiation.
 
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by Michael Lewis:
I am going to go further. It is the Platonic form of rose.
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I finally sat down with an entire bottle of this. Holy crap, is it good.

In addition, I think that this is a perfectly acceptable use of form in Plato's sense, although I suppose the form itself never has a material instantiation.
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I gave some further thought to my use of the Platonic form in this context. And I have concluded that the wine is so perfect as to be a material instantiation of the Platonic form, notwithstanding the traditional understanding that the Platonic form cannot have a material instantiation. Put differently, it is so great that it warped the philosophical universe. Maybe the actual universe too. Mind: blown.

I now understand what Parker means when he says "100 points!" He was talking about Platonic forms the whole time and I just didn't know.
 
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