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CWD: 2011 Coudert Griffe
- Thread starter VLM
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originally posted by slaton:
With its hoisin and horehound candy notes, the Griffe has sometimes reminded me of Bachelet or a whole-cluster Rhys pinot noir. For gamay, anyway. I'm really curious to see how it develops over time.
Vosne has me a little perplexed, but perhaps with a slight transform my hoisin becomes your five-spice.
I don't get hoisin but five spice is accurate. I wouldn't compare it to heavy stem-inclusion pinots, more destemmed.
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:
CWD: 2011 Coudert GriffeThe nose is still a bit shy, but I love the palate. A sumptuous Vosne like palate really makes this wine delicious now. When the nose starts to come out (which it does a bit after some air) this could be really tremendous. If you have a bit, pop one now or else give it another 2-3 years for the nose to join the palate.
Another Coudert to buy by the case.
you with Gilman? you like '11 Beaujolais?
I don't know that I have a position on 2011, but I have a position on Beaujolais and bought many of the usual suspects. I've also been drinking Descombes Morgon VV with regularity. I thought Desvignes Py was quite nice, too.
What's the issue?
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originally posted by VLM:
What's the issue?
I thought we discussed this offline, but perhaps not.
You know how herbaceousness makes some 11 burgs attractively loire-like? A very different net result from the same, in 11 Beaujolais: an herb cherry syrup effect in some of the worst cases, particularly with the sweeter wines.
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:
What's the issue?
I thought we discussed this offline, but perhaps not.
You know how herbaceousness makes some 11 burgs attractively loire-like? A very different net result from the same, in 11 Beaujolais: an herb cherry syrup effect in some of the worst cases, particularly with the sweeter wines.
Shit, maybe. But it's been a while (too long) since I've seen you.
I didn't get that particular thing, but I'll keep an eye out. I'll be having some Descombes Morgon VV 2011 in the near future and might dig out 2011 Coudert regular.
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Or, y'know, Le Cru et le cuit....
originalist!
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
Cacio e Pepe.
although not binary pairs, this is an interesting idea. we'll let you know. probably just end up with Jason & Medea. (JK)
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Euripides and Aeschylus. You'll be the envy of every Classics major on the dog run.originally posted by kirk wallace:
probably just end up with Jason & Medea. (JK)
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
i thought dog's names shouldn't be more than 2 syllables?
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Perhaps you're right. U and S, then.
(But it's not like I suggested Constantinopolitanischerdudelsackspfeifenmachersgesellschafft and Transvaaltruppentropentransporttrampelthiertreibertrauungsthraenentragoedie.)
(But it's not like I suggested Constantinopolitanischerdudelsackspfeifenmachersgesellschafft and Transvaaltruppentropentransporttrampelthiertreibertrauungsthraenentragoedie.)
kirk wallace
kirk wallace
The girls today in society go for classical poetry.
So to win their hearts, one must quote with ease
Aeschylus and Euripides....
So to win their hearts, one must quote with ease
Aeschylus and Euripides....
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
Our dog is named Archibald Olson Barnabooth Stieber Lewis. However, she only responds to "Archie" or "Hey, no, stop that!"
Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Larbaud!
Michael Lewis
Michael Lewis
Indeed, Sharon. You can tell that Chelsea named her.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
Hasn't anyone read Nietzsche? Aeschylus and Sophocles, please. No decadent, post-Socratic playwrights.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
I didn't realize that Euripides was spoofy.originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Hasn't anyone read Nietzsche? Aeschylus and Sophocles, please. No decadent, post-Socratic playwrights.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
I didn't realize that Euripides was spoofy.originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Hasn't anyone read Nietzsche? Aeschylus and Sophocles, please. No decadent, post-Socratic playwrights.
Turned Greek tragedy from its Dionysian roots toward decadent realism. Believed, according to Nietzsche, that art could only exist within the confines of reason. Spoof before anyone knew what it was called.
Mike Evans
Mike Evans
originally posted by VLM:
originally posted by .sasha:
originally posted by VLM:
What's the issue?
I thought we discussed this offline, but perhaps not.
You know how herbaceousness makes some 11 burgs attractively loire-like? A very different net result from the same, in 11 Beaujolais: an herb cherry syrup effect in some of the worst cases, particularly with the sweeter wines.
Shit, maybe. But it's been a while (too long) since I've seen you.
I didn't get that particular thing, but I'll keep an eye out. I'll be having some Descombes Morgon VV 2011 in the near future and might dig out 2011 Coudert regular.
You inspired me to open a 2011 Griffe last night, and it showed a bit of fresh pine bough on the nose at first, though I didn't find it off-putting. Overall, it's still young but much more approachable than on release, dark and brooding with a puzzle-like complexity that intrigues and relaxes rather than frustrates.
Ian Fitzsimmons
Ian Fitzsimmons
I just acquired some '13s. Hands off for a while, I imagine.
Yes. Tasted it at the domaine a couple of weeks ago, and for my taste it needs time.originally posted by Ian Fitzsimmons:
I just acquired some '13s. Hands off for a while, I imagine.
It doesn't show particularly Beaujolais-like at the moment. Although it is kind of its own thing anyway.
I was curious how Alain Coudert views the wine, and he seems to consider it an interesting experiment. Given the choice he'd rather drink Cuvée Tardive, though.