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Click Bait from the NY Times
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Sharon Bowman
Sharon Bowman
Oh my god, ow.
I thought we were here to combat anti-intellectualism.
I thought we were here to combat anti-intellectualism.
originally posted by Sharon Bowman:
Oh my god, ow.
I thought we were here to combat anti-intellectualism.
Might be a case of "follow the money" on this one?
Todd Abrams
Todd Abrams
Is there ever an article written about these issues that doesn't conclude with the belief that these wineshakes are gateways to more refined appreciation? I feed my kid American cheese slices so that she can one day appreciate Epoisses de Bourgogne. (I don't really, her favorite cheese is Fol Epi) There are so many more ways to rationalize the industrialization of food than this.
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
Is there ever an article written about these issues that doesn't conclude with the belief that these wineshakes are gateways to more refined appreciation? I feed my kid American cheese slices so that she can one day appreciate Epoisses de Bourgogne. (I don't really, her favorite cheese is Fol Epi) There are so many more ways to rationalize the industrialization of food than this.
For sure, but given the current zeitgeist, the article seems an ominous prodrome of worse to come.
Chris Coad
Chris Coad
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
Is there ever an article written about these issues that doesn't conclude with the belief that these wineshakes are gateways to more refined appreciation? I feed my kid American cheese slices so that she can one day appreciate Epoisses de Bourgogne. (I don't really, her favorite cheese is Fol Epi) There are so many more ways to rationalize the industrialization of food than this.
For sure, but given the current zeitgeist, the article seems an ominous prodrome of worse to come.
Seems much more like a simple statement of the obvious to me. People in the U.S. like artificially-flavored, slightly sweet beverage concoctions, news at 11. Apart from having to occasionally interact with such concoctions at college art gallery openings, I would think this has exactly zero bearing on most any us of who post here.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
She's promoting her new book. This is the one she wrote after the one about architecture imitation in China, and the articles on iphones, ax-throwing, violin-collecting, and a dozen other stray topics. Meh.
More like troll than bait.
More like troll than bait.
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Scary to think that the same divide applies in the visual arts.
Kay Bixler
Kay Bixler
originally posted by Chris Coad:
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Todd Abrams:
Is there ever an article written about these issues that doesn't conclude with the belief that these wineshakes are gateways to more refined appreciation? I feed my kid American cheese slices so that she can one day appreciate Epoisses de Bourgogne. (I don't really, her favorite cheese is Fol Epi) There are so many more ways to rationalize the industrialization of food than this.
For sure, but given the current zeitgeist, the article seems an ominous prodrome of worse to come.
Seems much more like a simple statement of the obvious to me. People in the U.S. like artificially-flavored, slightly sweet beverage concoctions, news at 11. Apart from having to occasionally interact with such concoctions at college art gallery openings, I would think this has exactly zero bearing on most any us of who post here.
Agree. And there's more natural wine available now than ever before (at least as long as I've been a buyer) so cool ranch cabernet doesn't appear to be posing any threat to the popularity of geek wines. Both types of wine, and everything in between, can and should happily exist as long as there are people who enjoy it.
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
She's promoting her new book. This is the one she wrote after the one about architecture imitation in China, and the articles on iphones, ax-throwing, violin-collecting, and a dozen other stray topics. Meh.
More like troll than bait.
Exactly. And given the review in this morning's New York Times, which one should question is even worthy of the ink, she's also got one hell of a publicist:
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Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
That is a wretched review of what is, presumably, a wretched book. (Though I'll admit I have owned some fluffy wine books down through the years, too.)
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
That is a wretched review of what is, presumably, a wretched book. (Though I'll admit I have owned some fluffy wine books down through the years, too.)
Agreed. The reviewer states "Bosker had exactly no experience in this field. But because she’s possessed of a jolly hubris, she manages to wheedle and bluff her way into a series of jobs for which she isn’t remotely qualified, and then to muscle her way into the most elite blind-tasting group in Manhattan — which would be like me deciding I wanted to brush up on my baseball skills by joining the Yankees for spring training."
Wow. I doubt any of us will be plonking down spare change to read this, even after it is remaindered, which will be any day now.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
We are talking about a journalist whose work appears in the New Yorker, the Atlantic and other like places. I expect the book will be worth the read despite the disdain for the article that starts this thread. At least as informative as the movie Somm, which I will admit to having been entertained by. If I could get the book at remaindered prices, I might read it. But I do have too many novels and narrative histories on my list to get to first.
The book strikes me as being of little to no interest to this crowd, but it is probably aimed at a different audience. And one which is probably larger than our crowd.
The author certainly seems 'interesting', I'll give her that. More power to her. Even if she is irrelevant to me.
The author certainly seems 'interesting', I'll give her that. More power to her. Even if she is irrelevant to me.
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
We are talking about a journalist whose work appears in the New Yorker, the Atlantic and other like places. I expect the book will be worth the read despite the disdain for the article that starts this thread. At least as informative as the movie Somm, which I will admit to having been entertained by. If I could get the book at remaindered prices, I might read it. But I do have too many novels and narrative histories on my list to get to first.
Fair enough. I'm not going to find out, but I did find "Somm" to be truly annoying.
originally posted by Rahsaan:
I think I lasted 10-15 minutes at most with Somm. On an airplane. Gazing out the window was more entertaining!
(Actually, there are so many options for airplane movies these days, the competition can be fierce)
I gave Bottle Shock the same treatment, under the same circumstances. Nice scenery!
Mark Lipton
Oswaldo Costa
Oswaldo Costa
Hard to choose which is worse between Bottle Shock and Somm.
Todd Abrams
Todd Abrams
originally posted by Rahsaan:
I think I lasted 10-15 minutes at most with Somm. On an airplane. Gazing out the window was more entertaining!
(Actually, there are so many options for airplane movies these days, the competition can be fierce)
I made it to 20 with Somm.
I watched Deadpool on the way to Europe last year. I was caught by surprise when the pegging scene came on and I realized that everyone around me could see what I was watching. Awkward... Should probably stick to the PG-13 gun violence.
Jonathan Loesberg
Jonathan Loesberg
You guys are way too demanding about movies. Bottle Shock had Alan Rickman being Alan Rickman. And Somm had that Ian guy, which was almost the same thing, And Deadpool, which I, too, watched on an airplane, was way better than I expected it would be. None of them are The 400 Blows, The Seventh Seal or Rio Bravo, but most of the books I read aren't Middlemarch or Anna Karenin. Now, it's true that because books make me read and movies just stuff things down my eyeballs, I have way lower standards with movies.