shout out for a great Bourgogne rouge cheapie

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Giraudon Bourgogne Chitry.

From the heart of Chablis, no less. How cool is that?

Ed Addiss brings this in.
 
Completely out of the blue, I ran down to the cellar to grab a bottle to go with a chicken pot pie and roasted vegetables that Jean made this past weekend, and came back up the stairs with this, 2014 vintage. It's been there for at least two years. Laughed out loud when I realized it was the same label.

It was great. Popped and poured, and the last glass was cloudy enough that I regretted not decanting, but it was delicious. Lot of verve, captivating aromatics, very true to the varietal, and great length for the price point.
 
Ed and Barbara Selig, the co-owners of Wine Traditions, are to me very underappreciated importers. I would say their taste is similar to Neil Rosenthal, but somehow they manage to bring things in less expensively. Definitely worth following.
 
originally posted by BJ:
Ed and Barbara Selig, the co-owners of Wine Traditions, are to me very underappreciated importers. I would say their taste is similar to Neil Rosenthal, but somehow they manage to bring things in less expensively. Definitely worth following.

or bring in things that are less expensive to start with. i agree that they curate good stuff. jose michel champagne comes immediately to mind.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
originally posted by mark e:
originally posted by Ken Schramm:
very true to the varietal [sic]

Is the Politburo asleep these days?

I, at least, got tired of being the nag, and since Ken's a cool dude...

Probably the reason almost everyone here tiptoes gingerly about and avoids it. Nonetheless, no matter how often even decent wine writers make this mistake, it is still wrong.

Example from May 2018 in The New Yorker:

A Vintner’s Quest to Create a Truly American Wine

Randall Grahm’s iconoclastic obsession will involve breeding new varietals from
scratch and growing them where grapes have never been grown before.

By Adam Gopnik
 
I always have to wonder, maybe the writer's work was vandalized by an overzealous and misinformed copy editor.

I drank more than a few bottles of the Chitry, purchased from Everyday Wines in Ann Arbor. Ed and Barbara have visited Detroit a few times too, but we have never been able to iron out distribution in the Detroit metro market.
 
saying, "Today, the winery produces a range of varietals at varying price points" when those wines are blends is flat out wrong. also, "varietal wines" is redundant
 
Look, only varieties of grapes are ever referred to as varietals. You never hear someone argue about whether bonobos are separate species or varietals of chimpanzees. And grape varieties are only so referred to by wine geeks, who, no doubt have the impression they are using some sort of ritzy, techy term. It's a toxic mix of wine snobbery and linguistic ignorance. Now, since this has been going on for some time, it is only responsible for dictionaries to record the usage. But that doesn't make it a good idea. That kind of thinking is how we lost the second person singular (being virtually the only European language not to have one) during the Restoration. Not all things that happen to language are good things. Fight the noble battle while you still can.
 
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
So goes the neighborhoodSo many people use compliment when they mean complement that soon Merriam-Webster will record the usage as a second meaning.

I should compliment you on that observation, but would that complement my earlier praise?

Mark Lipton
 
originally posted by MLipton:
originally posted by Oswaldo Costa:
So goes the neighborhoodSo many people use compliment when they mean complement that soon Merriam-Webster will record the usage as a second meaning.

I should compliment you on that observation, but would that complement my earlier praise?

Mark Lipton

I am impervious to garden varietal praise.
 
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