Jim Hanlon
Jim Hanlon
That's right.
CWD: What did you drink last night (or whenever)?
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That's right.
Jeff Grossman
Jeff Grossman
Thanks for the note. I definitely avoid wines in which there is cabernet that was never there before.
Jim Hanlon
Jim Hanlon
According to Galloni, there's always been Cab in this wine: "About 10% of the existing Canaiolo plants were grafted over with Cabernet Sauvignon, which has always been part of the blend. ... Since 2009 Giovanni Manetti has reduced the Cabernet Sauvignon from about 10% of the blend to 5%, a reflection of how much character the Sangiovese has acquired as the vines have aged."
This was news to me, but I don't really know this wine.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
I freely admit that last time I had this wine, albeit a few years ago now, I loved it. It may not come off as classic CCR, but I thought it was the complete package. And it was the star of that dinner, a Sorbo vertical.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
Since the original author has provided a "(or whenever)" escape clause, I challenge the disordered to recall the occasion that saw this incredible Magnum take the 'wine of the night' honors amidst many other fabulous offerings.
Jim Hanlon
Jim Hanlon
I can't speak to the mag of 2006 CRB Cot. But this week I did open a 2007 from 750. This bottle seems to be on the back nine, which is no surprise, but isn't putting on 18 yet. No tannin left, and the acid is pretty mellow. There's still some fruit, but also lots of earth and some spice. This isn't my last bottle, and I'll probably hold the remainder longer than I should. With CRB, Puffeney, and other domaines that are no more, it's so hard to balance drinking the wines when they can show what was put into them with wanting to extend the availability of that experience, or even a lesser version of it. I still have some 2012 CRB l'Arpent Rouge, which was probably my favorite wine from them year over year. I probably can't reasonably expect that wine to improve at this point, but the few corks left are hard to pull. Of course, that's easier if its with other Disorderlies.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
Since the original author has provided a "(or whenever)" escape clause, I challenge the disordered to recall the occasion that saw this incredible Magnum take the 'wine of the night' honors amidst many other fabulous offerings.
Landmarc?
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
Some wonderful wines with mediocre pizza last night
Etienne Calsac l'Echappee Belle is even better from magnum than from 750.
1998 Dunn Napa was that unicorn wine - a perfectly mature Dunn
2006 Rhys Swan Terrace Pinot Noir has finally opened up and is entering its prime. Gorgeous but still slightly overshadowed by the
2007 Rhys Skyline Pinot Noir which is still ethereal and crystalline
1995 Kalin Cellars Chardonnay has become a rich, caramelly, complex and delicious wine
2006 Produttori was delicious
2005 Weegmuller Haardter Mandelring Rieslaner Auslese had an amazing nose and delightful ripe flavors with adequate acidity :)
A lot more but they stick out in memory.
Etienne Calsac l'Echappee Belle is even better from magnum than from 750.
1998 Dunn Napa was that unicorn wine - a perfectly mature Dunn
2006 Rhys Swan Terrace Pinot Noir has finally opened up and is entering its prime. Gorgeous but still slightly overshadowed by the
2007 Rhys Skyline Pinot Noir which is still ethereal and crystalline
1995 Kalin Cellars Chardonnay has become a rich, caramelly, complex and delicious wine
2006 Produttori was delicious
2005 Weegmuller Haardter Mandelring Rieslaner Auslese had an amazing nose and delightful ripe flavors with adequate acidity :)
A lot more but they stick out in memory.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
I just could not get over the wood flavors in this wine. I emphasize flavors (rather than balance).
Jim Hanlon
Jim Hanlon
I think over the next 10-20 years as more Dunns reach maturity, consensus will build that this has been one of the very best producers of California Cabernet. I suppose many people already think that, but the comment is so often conditioned. If I were acquiring California Cab for my cellar, some older Dunn would be a prime target.
Nice to hear about the Rhys wines. I divested a couple years ago due to price increases and inconsistency. I still have fond memories of a couple early visits and am pleased to hear the wines are coming around, even from young vines.
That caramel note is pretty common in the Kalin chards, in my experience. I can appreciate it, but also wonder sometimes whether I'd like the wines more if they were released 5 or 10 years earlier -- when they were 10-15 years old, rather than 20-25+. I absolutely, without qualification, love their Semillons.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by Pavel Tchichikov:
Since the original author has provided a "(or whenever)" escape clause, I challenge the disordered to recall the occasion that saw this incredible Magnum take the 'wine of the night' honors amidst many other fabulous offerings.
Landmarc?
I think that’s what he is referring to. But he might be forgetting the insane bottle (mag?) of 1995 Trimbach CFE there. Or not.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
Magnum. Insane. Second best wine there.
Jay Miller
Jay Miller
That surprises me a bit to hear though as Jayson will tell you I'm not as oak-averse as some here so long as it's not toasty oak. But I didn't notice anything that I would have described as wood and I've had a fair amount of this wine.
Salil Benegal
Salil Benegal
I've been drinking a glass or two of the Equipo Navazos La Bota de Fino "que va para Amontillado" No 85 the last few nights and it is something really special. Richer and more oxidative/caramelly than a typical fino but still remarkably light with a hauntingly beautiful fragrance.
Jayson Cohen
Jayson Cohen
Are you drinking it with food? Curious what and how they work together.
Salil Benegal
Salil Benegal
Had it one night at the start of a meal with bread/cheeses/a couple of RWC/Kermit olive oils (speaking of which, the Moulin Cornille and Vetrice are fantastic), on other nights it was just on its own at the end of the meal. Might have another couple of glasses with Chinese (hopefully Sichuan) takeout this evening though.
Pavel Tchichikov
Pavel Tchichikov
Jim Hanlon
Jim Hanlon
2014 Jean-Philippe Fichet Auxey-Duresses: Looking at the archives, VLM has posted on Fichet wines many times, but no one else really has. This was typical of the domaine -- lithe and mineral for contemporary white Burgundy, with no overt reduction or oak poking out. The Fichet wines can be a little spendy, although not really in the context of Meursault, but those here who don't know them should take a spin when an opportunity presents. This Auxey is a carefully grown and raised wine, and current vintages retail for $50ish.
robert ames
robert ames
amen on the fichet auxey-duresses. . .much better than their bourgogne and bougogne v.v., and so much $$ less than the village meursault. a great wine at that price point.