Save the "what did you drink tonight" thread.

originally posted by SFJoe:
If you haven't done so, you should download the free Kindle copy and read Lytton Strachey's bio of Nightingale in "Eminent Victorians." The Crimean bits are quite amazing, and have echoes in our time.

By all means read and enjoy. But don't trust a word of.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by SFJoe:
If you haven't done so, you should download the free Kindle copy and read Lytton Strachey's bio of Nightingale in "Eminent Victorians." The Crimean bits are quite amazing, and have echoes in our time.

By all means read and enjoy. But don't trust a word of.

?!?!

you can't just leave that hanging
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by SFJoe:
If you haven't done so, you should download the free Kindle copy and read Lytton Strachey's bio of Nightingale in "Eminent Victorians." The Crimean bits are quite amazing, and have echoes in our time.

By all means read and enjoy. But don't trust a word of.

The Army really was taking great care of the wounded before she showed up?
 
originally posted by SFJoe:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
originally posted by SFJoe:
If you haven't done so, you should download the free Kindle copy and read Lytton Strachey's bio of Nightingale in "Eminent Victorians." The Crimean bits are quite amazing, and have echoes in our time.

By all means read and enjoy. But don't trust a word of.

The Army really was taking great care of the wounded before she showed up?

No. And it certainly was true that her notions of hygiene improved things. But Strachey has heroes and villains. Nightingale was one of his heroes, so he doesn't talk about her ignorance of germ theory and the insufficiency of many of her solutions. It's good that he debunks the sentimental picture of her as the lady with the lamp to talk about her administrative battles and her political acuity, but once he takes a side, he really can't evaluate the ins and out of a controversy.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
And it certainly was true that her notions of hygiene improved things. But Strachey has heroes and villains. Nightingale was one of his heroes, so he doesn't talk about her ignorance of germ theory and the insufficiency of many of her solutions. It's good that he debunks the sentimental picture of her as the lady with the lamp to talk about her administrative battles and her political acuity, but once he takes a side, he really can't evaluate the ins and out of a controversy.

What price Semmelweis?
 
Semmelweis' practice of disinfecting his hands did work against germs, even though he didn't know why. Nightingale mostly cleaned windows and floors. This was undoubtedly a good thing, but, really, the death rates in the hospitals didn't go down all that much it turns out.
 
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Semmelweis' practice of disinfecting his hands did work against germs, even though he didn't know why.
"Necrotic matter." He was going straight from autopsies to delivery and thought he could do something to lessen the death rate.
 
originally posted by Jeff Grossman:
originally posted by Jonathan Loesberg:
Semmelweis' practice of disinfecting his hands did work against germs, even though he didn't know why.
"Necrotic matter." He was going straight from autopsies to delivery and thought he could do something to lessen the death rate.

didn't we recently learn that teh monkey is in fact george box?

hopefully he'll weigh in.

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2005 Desvignes Javernieres #1 takes hours to open, but always giving you something to work with along the way. Monkey was right.
Great bottle of Morgon.
 
After dinner last night I could not resist ordering a glass of the 2008 Rebholz Spätburgunder X-Periment, which is a fortified port-style wine.

It was exactly what you would expect of a fortified spätburgunder wine (because I know you have extensive priors on the subject) and went very well with my Variations on Cherry for dessert.
 
We started off dinner with a joyous bottle of 2013 Horst Sauer Escherndorfer Lump Riesling Kabinett Trocken. Fine fresh and juicy, with mineral poise. What more could one want for a convivial and lively meal.

Then things got more complicated with 2007 von Kesselstatt Scharzhofberger Riesling GG. Probably not the best time to open this wine, but I was in the mood. It started off rocky and austere but gained the golden waxy aging riesling fruit with air. Eventually it offered its fair share of pleasure but I wish I had more to see it in the future.
 
originally posted by Jay Miller:
originally posted by .sasha:
So that's what 2001 Fred tastes like when not Premox!

Really good, isn't it?

Sort of, because it's painfully young when in perfect condition. This is the second bottle like this in the past year, but success rate is
 
Brundlmayer 1997 GV Alte Reben was wonderful.
My last bottle (I am almost sure!) and by far the most complete. I used to find this woody, but it no longer was; whatever used to hinder is now all about fatTexture(tm) and layered structure. I also got a bit of botrytis - which I do not recall from previous occasions - which both brightens and simplifies. So not the most complex beast but drink yours up and be happy.
 
Tonight a very fine bottle of 2003 Alzinger Loibenberg GV Smaragd. Every time I thought it was hinting hot it flashed its fine structure and I remained pleased. Didn't hurt that I was drinking it with some very delicious (and pleasingly zesty) food at Cordobar, where any Disorderlies in Berlin should definitely consider visiting pronto before the list gets picked over any further.
 
originally posted by Rahsaan:

any Disorderlies in Berlin should definitely consider visiting pronto before the list gets picked over any further.

i won't pretend i can hide my feelings about that fact that most of the areas whose existence was formerly elided by the existence of the border zone have been "revived" into the saddest simulacrum of an authentic city, or my opinion of people who revel in the frat house / shopping mall that "new berlin" has become. so i may as well acknowledge the wall of prejudice behind my question before i ask: what exactly inspired you to go to an austo-german joint in the north-east of germany, and why, given that you chose to do so, did you cherry pick this particular specimen?

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